Satan judges God more evil than himself for using a genocidal flood. Is he right?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by greatest I am, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    How many human beings have been killed because of drugs???
     
  2. soaringeagle

    soaringeagle Senior Member

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    according to christain beliefe satan doesnt have to drawl people to his side were born inherently evil, sinners from birth and have to accept god to be saved
    in other words walk away from satan if there was such a thing
    we arent talking here about deaths by man in gods name we are talking about total annihilation of all life, suposedly done by gods own hands..and there are passages in the bible were god commands armies to destroy entire towns rape the women kill the men and enslave the children and hes suposed to be the good guy? in the bible this so called evil thing known as satan ...who was he responcible for killing? how many villiages did he burn? how many plagues and floods were caused by him? in fact, the only thing that he was really accused of was sayinbg eat an apple that suposedly gave you all the knowkledge of all things (god preffered you live in ignorance i guess huh? must have had alot to hide) and saying he was equal to god (wshich christians seem to think hes more powerful)


    hahaha funny statement that is, the bible says that only 100,000 souls make it to heaven, thats 100,000 who existed since the beginning of time
    there are how many million christians alive today completely convinced theyre on that list? how many millions of preists have existed in the past several thousand years? hardley anyone goes to hell you say? then why does every christian tell me im going to hell? why do they leave pamphlets saying your going to hell all over the place? heaven isnt christianities biggest recruitment tool...hell is..the fear of it, do they go around saying ohh its so wonderful accept god and u get to float around on puffty clouds forever...no..they say accept him or suffer in a lake of fire..fear..intimidation..watch out gods more powerful than that pussy satan god wipes everyuthing out in his path
    floods plagues and brimstone raining from the sky
    while satans suposedly responcible for erections and orgasms..lol



    exactly, in fact thinking for yourself is the last thing they want...remember that ol thing called blind faith?
    heres a million lies that make absolutely no sence at all, but you better believe theyre true or you'll end up in a place that we just made up


    the bible claim heaven and hell exist, but doesnt explain what either is where it is or anything, only that 1 is good the other bad and u gotta believe this noncence to go to the right one

    in the beginning only god existed right?
    so, god must have created hell...and demons and satan..and evil as well (if you believe that noncence that is)
    but if as some claim god is responcible for all the good in the world and satan all the bad, and the war between good and evil has gone on forever then satan was punnished for claiming to be equal when he clearly was and is today
    (yea ok that sounds like a satanist statement but im not saying its true, im saying its all false, not saying gods evil for causing a flood that wiped out everything im saying there was no flood to begin with and common sence would tell you theres not enough water on earth or inthe atmosphere top cause a flood that big (ignore common sence, it happened because it says it doid in a book that also claims dragons existed (and demons makeyou horny and a christian who turns a stick into a snake is a saint but a non christian who does the same is a witch who fucks demons and must be put to death)



    thank you for thinking wish more people would

    we wouldnt be at war today if christains thought more often
    they vote not on issues or for whos best but for whoever says god most often in the speaches(ok, they vote on 1 issue only, the 1 the church says is the big 1 that year, abortion, stem cells whatever, doesnt matter that the guy they vote fors pure evil)

    anymore the term christian values means pushing the christian agenda even if thats driving us towards total destruction
    but i guess im getting on a rant thats lil off topic
    well, maybe it isnt, if you thought for yourself would you still vote for bush, who claims to be pro life but was responcible for more deaths in his home state then any other?
    yet you did,,,why? cause he says god alot (and kills as much)

    christians always say dont condemn the entire religion and god just because so much evil has been done in its name but then believe everuything that same church says is evil must be
    if christianity is responcible for so much evil, wouldnt that be a clue that maybe it is?
    if every life is preciuos and worth presserving and stem cell research can presserve and extend lives wouldnt that be good?

    the church dictates what is and isnt evil
    and killing is good if its cristians killing non believers but evil if its non christians killing

    sex is evil...unless said sex results in motre cristians who pump more money into the vatican and more political power into theyre struggle for world dominance
    hitler was branded the most evil man in history for wanting to do exactly the samre thing christians want
    he wanted to stomp out all other races and spread his influence around the world
    replace races with beliefs and hows that not the christian agenda?
    but hitler was fought against and stoppeed in a few years while the christian holocaust marches on for thousands unaposed
     
  3. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    wow that was pretty extreme.

    All I know is all I can trust is love, peace, and harmony. I live my life by these ideals. In my opinion, if there is a God, said God must surely stand for such noble and true causes. If he doesn't, then guess im going to hell or w/e "bad people" go. It's all I can trust.
     
  4. MotherLoveBone

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    literal interpretations of scripture yield no real spirituality, in my opinion. Why not interpret it in a way that will benefit your life?

    I may be crazy, but in my life I got to a point where I had filled my life with "sin," or just really bad choices. I set off on a spiritual journey, and as soon as I realized the great unifying loving force that flows through the Universe I experienced a sort of flood in my life. I was given the choice to essentially drown in the shitty life I had created for myself, or rise to higher ground so to speak. I chose to rise above my past, and the parts of my life that were weighing me down "died." So, essentially I think of the flood story as relating to the spiritual cleansing that we all have to do with ourselves every once in a while. I know it may sound crazy for some, but it makes perfect sense to me.
     
  5. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    All I can say from reading this is that I believe that SoaringEagle has the smartest view here.
     
  6. MotherLoveBone

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    Many people have been killed by those who claim to come in the name of Jesus Christ. Conversely, many have been killed because they professed their belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ...

    I dont see how anyone can make a legitimate claim that religion is evil. I think you could say that unchecked power often degenerates into evil. And you could say that human kind has an evil side. Religion is not free from human evil, but evil is not restricted to religion either.
     
  7. Duck

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    I've always tried to argue that God was more evil. That's a big part of why I turned away from Christianity. Not just that I wasn't sure that God existed; if he does exist, he's a fucking prick.
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I thought we were talking about hell babies.
     
  10. greatest I am

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    Turn to recognizing evil might be a good start.

    regards
    DL
     
  11. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    I do not condemn God. I recognize that He does not need to kill.
    You should to.

    Regards
    DL
     
  12. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    Truer words were never spoken.

    Regards
    DL
     
  13. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    How many for other reasons.

    Reasons abound.

    Regards
    DL
     
  14. greatest I am

    greatest I am Member

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    I'm with you on this. I like his stance on pot but the rest goes to pot.

    Regards
    DL
     
  15. greatest I am

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    You are right and the reasons are many and some of them even have something to do with God.

    Regards
    DL
     
  16. greatest I am

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    A better view than those who try to justify genocide.

    Regards
    DL
     
  17. greatest I am

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    Religions must be flexible enough to recognize their good and their evil side and be able to move on from their original positions. If not they will die.

    We need a new Bible.

    Regards

    DL

     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    greatest I am,
    Are you beating this dead horse again? You have already discussed this in another thread and got no where, now you’re trying it again. And you know that no matter what any body says about it, the discussion will all come down to in the end you saying: I’m right because I say I’m right and you’re wrong because I say you’re wrong.
     
  19. greatest I am

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    He does but He is not.

    If you seek enlightenment, try this.

    In Genesis God sends Adam and Eve out of the garden. Most people say cast them out or that they fell from grace etc.

    If you read God's word loudly, lets say, in your own mind then you will hear an angry God chastizing Adam and Eve.
    If you read the same words in a Jesus type way, more softly, you should not hear any chastizing at all but more of a giving of information.

    reading the first will drive you away from God. Reading the second way may show you what God is truly like.

    Not the loser of a dick that the Bible portrays to most but a truly loving God who gave us knowledge and wisdom and not death and distruction.

    It's all in the reading

    Regards
    DL
     
  20. greatest I am

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    If the only thing I accomplish is to make one fool go from endorcing genocide to recognizing it's evil then I will have won.

    It is worth the effort.

    Regards
    DL
     

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