Satori Grow

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Indoor soil grows are my favorite. I had built a water farm once and the maintenance was not as fun as soil.

I agree with the methods - I used to like them just coasting through veg then BAMN hit them with the hps and let the fun begin. Do you trim the lower branches off ? - the palm tree look.

What is your nutrient procedure?

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Bill

 

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Why are you vegging under a light cycle instead of 24 hour light? Is it so you can sex the plants early, or are you going 12/12 all the way?

 

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hey maniac hydro really isnt that much of a pain, in fact once its up and going i only need to check once every few days,its just i like seein the progress.i bet with soil you have to physically water what?twice a day,im off tomorrow on a holiday until monday!!! thats 4 days un touched,then 1st of october mine are goin to flower.
i also think with hydro they take off much quicker early on,but i think it is dependant on the growing material,i think soil restricts root growth too much.i'll post some pics tomorrow,the epsom salts worked a treat on the magnesium problem.

 

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You are right depending on how your area is setup. If you have two separate areas it is a pain to move things around. Drainage from the control bucket is solved by some 1/2" pvc to a drain - but the filling and mixing and pH adjusting just became a chore. But yes they do grow fast. With soil there are other issues but you have to admit soil is more forgiving.

 

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i'm waitin!

 

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what size pots are those? They look way too big for the babies.

 

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wassup M4N
im loving your setup and your plants look like thier going great!
have u considered using a 1000W MH instead of those CFL's for seedling/veg?
i know a guy who used a 1000W MH for his whole grow(soil) and on day 20 his plants(80 of them) where on thier 9th node and REALLY bushy. if u can afford it i strongly recommend you get a 1000W MH for your vegging cab.
that guy who had the 80 plants, i was talking to him about growing cannabis with a hydro set-up and this is what he had to say(he has 20Yrs experience in growing weed):
the more the plants mature, the more potent they are.
with hydro the plants grow EXTRA quik, and they don't get a chance to properly mature as they grow. Marijuana plants grown in soil grow slower and mature properly as they grow.
therefore Marijuana grown in a hydro setup is not as potent as Marijuana grown in soil.

i think u should definately stick with soil M4N

about the pots. i don't think starting the plants in thier final positions(or in large pots) have an ill-effect on them at all, i prefer to start plants in thier final position to avoid transplanting(i don't like transplanting because i find it slows growth for a short while after the transplant).

nice grow M4N!!!

 

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Man either your buddy has no clue or you misunderstood what he was saying. Don't take this as an attack just trying to help you. For example there was an old old wive's tale that boiling the roots would increase potency as would hanging them upside down to dry - crazy stuff that was around so long people believed it.

Potency has nothing to do with growing medium it has to do with genetics and proper technique. Identical plants grown in soil or hydroponics will have identical pontency - yield is different as will be maintenance.

1K watter for seedlings is crazy. Aside from the heat (which is incredible) the wee ones cannot handle the intensity and you esentially are throwing $$$$ away as the lights have to be fairly high. A solid 400w MH works great for 80+ in 20oz cups (they can easily reach 2' high before transplanting for flowering). Now if you are growing 4 footers then yep a 1k watt will be mandatory.

The next problem is the flowering area which now requires at least 2 1k watters and really efficient ventilation. Again I cannot stress how important temp control becomes.

The only maturity that effects potency is in flowering. You have to know when the trichomes are ripe and that is it (50, 60, 70 days - know your grow). I know of mother plants 2+ years that yield clones with the same potency as when the clones did not even have alternating nodes. Hydro or soil it does not matter.

The only reason why transplanting is recommended is to promote root growth. I know you haven't had any experience yet but the roots grow really fast and tend to build up around the sides and bottom. By transplanting you help to put off being root bound. I used to like 20oz -> 1 gal -> 3 gal progression (I gave up the hobby years ago -> marriage ) Transplanting also provides clean soil which does not contain contaminates - if you are careful and provide a lil superthrive the growth rate does not get stunted and are rewarded with more vigor.

Sorry for thread jacking Maniac! The grow looks great!

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thanks alot for your input on this BudBill!
i don't think i have ever smoked Hydro grown weed but i have heard ALOT that it is great the first time you smoke it but after that its shit.
i don't think my friend has ever grown Hydro, so he hasn't had any experience in soil-less growing. what i wrote earlier is his theory and it makes alot of sense to me. u are also putting forward a good argument.
i am still learning and i really appreciate your input on this.
i am going to look into this more and find out for sure.

my friend had his seedlings under the 1000W MH and he had the bulb about a foot away from the tops of the plants and he had no problems at all.
his plants grew to about 4-5feet tall.
he didn't need another 1000W bulb in flowering because he only got 25 females out of 80.
it would be more cost efficient if you germed and put seedlings under a less intense light but i think a high intensity bulb(like a 1000WATTER) is better for VEGGING.

thanks for that info on transplanting BudBill.
i guess i got the wrong idea about transplanting from my first grow.
i transplanted some seedling into bigger pots WAY to soon and the soil in the smaller pots was 100% germination soil, so when i transplanted because the seedling didn't have enough roots to hold the soil together, the germination soil just fell apart when i was transplanting(that really really fine stuff).
i think my plants got major shock, and they didn't grow for awhile after that.

back onto M4N's journal!!!
can't wait for the update!!!