save our nation-new woodstock

Its not all so different...I think people get frustrated because they thing there isn't as much to fight for nowadays, but there definitely is...evil still exist, but in different forms. I don't think you need a concert, may be just a get together, like Port Huron or something. But I think you could get something together, especially through hipforums. But don't depend on hippies and past times!

 

its different because most people dont belive in free love and peace. Back then they were being drafted and had to go on the run so they wouldnt get drafted. The woodstock back then was established to send a message to the government. There are a lot of problems but most of us arent generally effected by these problems.

 

What's the difference between Iraq and Vietnam, besides location, slightly different weapons and 40 years?

don't take this the wrong way but Woodstock wasn't an event to send any kind of message to anyone. it was just an arts festival. it became something else because of the people that were there helping each other and having a sweet time together. these festivals are everywhere now.

blubird what is it you (or anyone else) want to say to folks at a festival?

 

It's not our turn, your generations turn isn't over by far. Despite the positive changes made in the last few decades your generation also brought things like hypocricy, consumerism and apathy to a higher level.

Blissfully ignorant?

 

call me crazy, but i still think that we have a chance of surviving this hate filled world, but only if we stick together, if not through concert then at least through our own love and i think that a get-together might be the best thing for us. Please realize that i honestly believe that we are all already fighting individually for what we believe in to come to reality so why not pursue it together?

 

Surely, it's you and your generations turn, unless you and a bunch of others' from your younger generation commit mass suicide because you haven't got the guts to face reality, and deal with the shit that assholes from my older generation as well as assholes from your younger generation regularly shove into you.

Either stick it up to the man, or you younger folks simply just bend over. It's your choice.

 

Indeed, we should do it together. It's not our turn, and we did not messed up yet. I'm not the kind of person that blames others for the shit I'm in, but my opinion is that if our generation is so fucked up (which always is a generalisation of course), and I guess most people who say fucked up are talking about the matter of how selfish, tasteless, greedy, spoiled and ignorant we act, it's largely due to how our generation was raised.

 

Your generation was raised up to a certain point.

After a certain point, you're expected to start to think on your own and make your own decisions.

Does your moma still wipe your ass for you? :jester:

 

I'm aware of that certain point, it's how the next generation is raised that influences the way how they gonna make decisions. Not that we are all raised the same of course, but there is a certain tendency.

 

I don't think we should say any one generation is better or worse or should be the catalyst for this new revolution... We all have something to give, something to teach, something to learn from each other.

 

My generation went through all that cycle.
We rejected what we didn't like back then, we fought and demanded change and offered an alternative lifestyle to get the things that we wanted.

For better or for worse, the youth culture of the 60's-70's (my generation) transformed life in the West as we knew it.

Now, it's you, the younger generations' turn.

Either you remain a generation of whiners and losers or be the change you want to see in the world.

The choice is yours.

 

We could also see it the other way around, cause not everyone of my generation is whining or a loser, just as a large part of your generation didn't try to solve anything and brought a large part of the world in this state of consumerism. What about not pissing a whole generation off and work on the mess your generation is largely responsible for. You're the adults right.

You see, it doesn't serve any purpose to work on a generation's feelings. Actually it's not about generations at all. It's about being one and doing what is right. Or is it our turn because you guys already did enough? Haha, I guess some of you really believe that, right?

 

The choice is ours: that must feel convenient for you. You already saved the world once anyway right :tongue:

 

Why are we all throwing blame back and forth at each other? It doesn't matter if one group of people did it right and the other group of people fucked it all up for everyone. We need to look at the situation RIGHT NOW, and think, What can we do RIGHT NOW to fix this? Living in the past and casting blame at each other isn't going to do anything but piss each other off.

 

That was actually the point I was trying to make. It's never a whole group's fault anyway. I just don't get why some 'old hippies' feel that it's 'our generation's' turn now when they are still around as well.

 

LOL, sorry, wasn't trying to be a bitch. I get what you're saying. It's not one group's turn anymore than it's another group's turn. It's EVERYONE'S turn.

 

well what did your generation accomplish? im curious

 

im not ignorant im just stating the facts another woodstock wouldnt even compare to the '69 woodstock...

The iraq and vietnam war arent that much different but people arent being drafted in the iraq war. theres nothing really wrong in out country that can even compare to vietnam what darfur? thats not out country iraq war? theyre talking about withdrawing troops and theres a 99% chance theyre not going to draft. crime? crime is crime.. a woodstock 09 is possible it just wont be anything like woodstock '69 and my proof is woodstock 99 whats changed since then lol


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Here's another reason my generation has nothing to fight for we have every thing handed down to us.. theres no major problems to worry about.

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hate filled world? its always been this way its probally better then it used to be.


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it wasnt? "Woodstock: 3 days of peace and music" why would they want peace?... maybe the vietnam war?

 

do you believe every advertisement? Michael Lang was a there to make money as he had with other similar but much smaller festivals. maybe the vietnam war was on their minds but there was a lot of social upheaval going on at then. i'm not discounting Woodstock at all but don't see it as being any different than a lot of other festivals today. it's greatness isn't measured by the people who put it on but by what happened between the people that attended.

 

I'm at a complete loss to figure out exactly what was accomplished at Woodstock. How does sliding around in the mud accomplish anything? So you went to a rock concert for three days and suddenly you're a freedom fighter? Or maybe the freedom fighters are the ones who snuck in without paying??

If you're talking about sexual freedom then all that's given us is HIV and a lot of teen pregnancy, also a sky high divorce rate. If you're talking about ending the Vietnam war, I'm 100 percent positive it had wayyy more to do with the fact that the media had camera crews in there sending all kinds of gruesome footage back home all the time. Also the fact that Nixon realized that it wasn't making money, finally... it had nothing to do with people growing their hair long or listening to Janis Joplin or smoking dope or anything.

There was no difference between Woodstock and any other event-type concert-- it's just that somehow someone decided that they could make lots of money by marketing it as 'the event that defined a generation'. The people came, got high, fucked around, watched a show, then went home without cleaning up after themselves. What, should we give them all medals?

Rock concerts actually accomplish very little... it's nothing but passive entertainment. The only way you're going to change the world is if you get together and WORK, or you force yourself to give up things you'd rather not give up. You get smart, you investigate the scene, you come up with a solution. How are you going to help the people in Darfur if you don't even know what Darfur is like? Do you actually even know where Darfur is, or why things are so bad there? I'm sure that if you held a rock concert, then three days later absolutely nothing would have changed. If you're talking about raising awareness (which is usually about .000999 percent more effective than doing nothing), then there are better and easier ways to do it than holding a concert where everyone's going to be too drunk or too high to even give a shit about what you're trying to tell them!