Schools are NOT responsible for your childrens' education

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by redyelruc, May 16, 2009.

  1. RiffRaff

    RiffRaff Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Then why do we pay f*n teachers tons of money? Teachers don't want to do their job. They only want to present the material, they don't want to teach it. They are constantly trying to put the burden for teaching on the parents. Believe me, I fought that every step of the way with my daughter.

    The family, who work 2 and 3 jobs per person to survive, just don't have the time and many don't have the knowledge to teach. Make the teachers (there's a clue in the title) do what they're being paid to do.
     
  2. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    I guess they need to learn that they can either get educated kids or free labor, not both.

    I completely agree, though. Schools provide a dynamic learning environment where kids can bounce off each other and learn from each other, as well as develop socially, but the learning shouldn't stop once the bell rings. If I am ever tasked with raising kids, I will consider the first 10+ years of their lives one big learning experience, in school and out.
     
  3. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Tons of money? Where do you live? I wanna move there.

    You obviously have no idea about the reality of teaching classes of 30, sometimes way more, kids. The teacher cannot be responsible for the education of everybody in the class.

    Maybe these families that have 2 or 3 jobs per person should spend some time educating their kids instead of chasing money so that they can have microwaves, cars, big-screen TVs etc. It's a matter of priorities.
     
  4. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    Of course teachers should do their job. But that doesn't absolve parents of all responsibility. It is still a parent's duty to provide an environment in which the child is encouraged to learn and apply their brain. If you put your kid to work in your somtam shop or park them in front of the TV once school is out, you are failing them as a parent.
     
  5. Enraged Angel

    Enraged Angel Banned

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    Taking them to a park, or having play dates around other children is the same thing, at home there is less distraction and it's one on one, wich is better then having your child in a room of 30+ children and one teacher.
     
  6. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    babysitters and manipulators. Mostly to make our lives hell.
     
  7. Enraged Angel

    Enraged Angel Banned

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    TV can be evil, we keep TV very limited. If we do watch TV it's usually educational programming.
     
  8. Enraged Angel

    Enraged Angel Banned

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    From what I've heard and seen that can't be completely good... :rolleyes:
     
  9. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Taking your kids to a park is not the same as letting them fend for themselves and find their way with schoolmates.

    I do think that home-schooling can be a good thing but I am always worried about depriving the child of much-needed social skills. I think there must be a happy medium somewhere. Perhaps, children could go to school and still get taught by their parents at home.
     
  10. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    school was definitely the best option for kai. she needed social interaction and independence.
     
  11. Jimmy P

    Jimmy P bastion of awesomeness

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    I don't understand how people could not want to teach their kids as much as possible. I know I would want to be heavily involved in teaching my kids.

    EA, school can be rough - I know it was hell for me for quite a few years - but that does teach you things parent-supervised social interactions never could.
     
  12. redyelruc

    redyelruc The Yard Man

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    Yeah, I guess I forgot to put this:rolleyes: at the end of my last post.
     
  13. Holographic Trousers

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    so I take you you all aren't too fond of Obama's Educational Reform Plan esp the Zero to Five
     
  14. WOLF ANGEL

    WOLF ANGEL Senior Member - A Fool on the Hill Lifetime Supporter

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    " Teach your children well "
    School, educates in topics
    Family, sets standards, values, ambition, tolerance, morals, ethics .....
    < Peace + Love ~ Save the Planet >
    :)
     
  15. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    I agree. I work with one child who I believe doen not have autism and now his doctor (my boss) is also believing it too. he simply is not stimulated at home, is never allowed tot alk for himself and his mom does his homework for him.
    before he enrolled in school he was completley non-verbal, now after almost a whole school year, he is the most articulate 6 year old I know with zero sensory issues...autism my ass. More like I don't want to stimulate my child in anyway or contrinute to his success outside of how it relates to me as a parent.
    fucking pieces of shit. I am so sick of it.
    I gotta stop talkign abotu parenting. it's pissing me off. Especially, since i am not knocked up againt his month. All these piece of shit parents who don't engage their kids can have all the kids they want, but me, nopers, I can't have kiddos yet. I have to wait 3 fucking years until Andy has shore duty unless I want to give birth alone. It's just not fucking fair.
     
  16. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    I give props to anyone who does good homeschooling. I wouldn't have enough patience and I am dyslexic, so there is just no way it would work. It would be a mess.
    Besides being too hard on me, I love my mom's educational parenting style and want to emulate it. We went to museums every weekend, the tide pools or science center after school when she didn't have school, cultural events, went up the coast of CA to see all the missions the year I studied missions in school. I really got the fundementals at school and all of the creative stuff at home.
    I would love to homeschool my kids and am qualified to teach in CA, but I just don't have it in me. I know this already before even having kids.
     
  17. Tree-Hugger

    Tree-Hugger The Chainsaw

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    My kids will go to school. Hell at the moment I'm having to put together things to help a 17 year old with his reading skills. This because the parents thought he should learn how from school. The teachers can only do so much, and those that think teachers are trying to control what kind of citizens they will be are full of shit. I decided that I didn't want to be a teacher because I couldn't deal with the bullshit from parents. I'm being asked to help tutor and I can deal with those parents...if they don't like how I teach then they can go to someone else.

    It's up to parents and the students themselves to go above and beyond what the classroom provides....home schooling will limit that. More power to the people that want to do that. I just want my future kids to learn as much as possible.
     
  18. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    I don't like homeschooling, imo the social aspect of school is important. Even if I could've got a better education at home, be slightly less veered into what the Government want me to be, I'd rather of gone to school.

    And yea, I agree with you. So many peoples parents don't give a shit about their kids educations, it's an absolute shocker when neither does the kid!

    EDIT:

    I also agree with this. :cheers2:
     
  19. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    I don't like homeschooling either. Uneducated and inadequate parents teaching kids ? I don't think that's too good. And honestly, its a bit irresponsible - not to provide the best possible education for your children.
    Sure we all know a bit of Math and Geography. But that doesn't make us good teachers.
     
  20. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Wrong. Schools do hold some respnsibility. And you're a teacher.
     

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