Science Is Bullshit

^^ agreed.

science is a better model of actuality than anything you can come up with, citrus, because "proof" only exists when verifiable results can be systematically replicated.

that being said, no, science can't prove everything..but neither can faith.

 

it works when its done properly, scientific method is fairly good but only as good as the integrity its carried out with.

 

with solid syllogisms.

theories are ambiguous.

love it or reject it, you wouldn't be sitting there typing on a computer if science wasn't legit.

 

Science works or science doesn't work.....

Let me ask "Was Newton wrong about gravitation?"
If Newton was right, what about the transits of Mercury?
If Newton was wrong, why did NASA use his gravitational theory to get Voyager where it was going?

 

two forces at work at all times, according to quantum physics: gravity, and fusion.
(from "Hyperspace", Michio Kaku)

 

i havent read Hyperspace in a long time but im guessing thats talking about how stars work.

 

among other things, yes. It discusses the forces at work regarding atoms, to universes.

fusion is the force that tends to blow things apart , as in "the big bang", gravity is the force that tends to attract, hence, "the big crunch".

 

Hmmm fusion isnt really a force, its a type of reaction. Fusion is where two light nuclei combine to form a heavier one. From the perspective of a force its mediated by the electric force. In a star gravity tries to pull the the star to a point and energy provided by the fusion pushes out. This pushing energy comes from kinetic energy from gas atoms, gained from the fusion (i.e. its very hot), secondly radiation also exerts a force on matter this radiation pressure also pushes outwards. In small stars like our sun the kinetic energy of the gas is the main 'push' force in very big stars the radiation pressure can actually dominate.

 

fusion is a phenomenon of melting; gonna have to go back and check hyperspace (I have it), but i think those are the two forces at play here.

 

in the meantime, check this out http://deoxy.org/hs_phys.htm

 

Hyperspace isnt going to give much detail about fusion, try the wiki entry. Id be happy to give a more detailed post but for well known phenomenon I find wiki very useful, id probably only end up copying and pasting anyway.

 

no, I mean I'm trying to find his reference on how the two phenomena oppose each other

hyperspace is an interesting read, not passing it off as solid evidence, but this particular theory holds a lot of weight in the science community

 

The two only oppose each other in a star, in a fusion bomb or a fusion reactor, gravity has little effect.

H + H = He +neutrino + crap load of energy (12MeV)

most of that energy goes into pushing things away from the core so opposing energy. Theres no intrinsic relation between fusion and gravity (or at least not that i kno of, I appreciate the Michio Kaku is better than me at theoretical physics, but most of this is undergrad).

 

Sure, you and your fancy science answers and your words.

But are you any closer to figuring out how a person breathes, or why a rose is red?

Oh wait. Hurray Science!

 

The key to unexplainable things you "see" is: It's all a matter of perception. You perceive something, but you could also be mislead by your mind. This happens a whole lot.

 

what do we have to do, be able to explain and document everything before we believe its there?... "hey, lets cut a tree down to see how it was living"(past tense)... "hey, lets tromp through the forest to find out whats there" as if it wouldnt be there until we efficiently killed it, drew it, documented it, and posted its picture on the internet...

science is fuckedup, it doesnt have to be...but once you take the passion out of it.. i.e. paying scientists, and not just encouraging people to solve real world problems..people begin to do stupid shit just for the hell of it....
fuck that..
i want the universe to just be, and knowing that it is is knowledge enough...

 

science isn't fucked up, scientists are; the ones corrupted by the pursuit of financial gain, or political clout.

science is driven by curiousity, and that, is pure.

 

I'm pretty sure if scientists weren't paid, there would be about 10 scientists left.

 

Tell that to Galileo Galilei
How much was einstien paid to reveal 'relativity theory' NOTHING

Yes,, some science is a product of profit motive...
But occam suggests the great fundamental advances were no such thing.

Occam is no scientist. But he spends huge time in imagineering how reality works..Not for money..
BUT FOR THE PURE PLEASURE OF SOLVING A PUZZLE EVEN IF ONLY FOR HIMSELF.

Science [the rational desire to understand] is no more bullshit, than love.

Occam

 

What I'm saying is imagine how many scientists there are today, now think about how many would be left if they weren't getting paid to do it.