Science Is Bullshit

man science is real.. reality is reality, you may think when your high that your in reality but your not. Reality people die, people r born n people do dumb or great things. I never said i supported science and in the end its science that will get us all killed. Sadly there is no denying this, because we all know for a fact what horrible things science helped create i.e nuclear bombs. They say that science helps improve our world but look at our world today. You think every country in the world makin nuclear bombs n global warming is a lie?.. when it comes down to Mother Nature vs. Science it is mother nature that will win. Ice age for example. Something like "The Day After Tommarow" will happen, not necessarily for the same reason but its only matter of time with the glacial ice caps melting.

Spread peace not war-

 

Is it science or its applications? Science has also increased longevity (whether thats a good thing I dunno), we also have the ability to prevent global warming getting worse, we choose not to. This isnt sciences fault this is peoples fault, people are generally fairly stupid. I have no problem with people trying to kill themselves, let them smoke, Darwin referred to it as natural selection but people with real power killing all of does annoy me a little. Science wont kill us, putting the powerful tools it provides in the hands of morons probably will.

 

Problem is science cant do any of that - science is a methodological analysis of the facts. Technology is what becomes of science in the hands of people who apply the science to real world applications. Science is the process of eliciting facts from data - while technology is the end result of hardware or software in appliance to a problem or need.

 

I did make that point a couple of posts ago, I was only trying ot say not everything science has to say is bad. Dont think anything ive ever done will ever do anyone any good or harm in all honesty.

 

Science is not the problem. Neither is technology.
Peoples ignorance is the problem.
Just because guns exist, doesn't mean you are obligated to use one.
Would you give up you car? I think not. Would you pay more for an environmentally friendly vehicle?
What about all the packaging you throw away every day.
How many times have you planted a tree?
How many times have you used a peice of paper?
Did you use cloth diapers for your children?
What about all the electricity you use? Is your house solar/wind powered?
How often do you buy fruits and vegetables sprayed with pesticides from the supermarket?

 

Sorry fat Tony I may have misinterpreted what you said
I think I made the same point earlier in the thread (or was it another) too.
but just one more point...
how many people feel they are not doing science on a daily basis?
virtually everything you do is science based
you recieve the evidence of your senses and analyse that data to give the best factual account of the world you can elicit from the data (crossing a busy road for example) thats all science is- how can that be bullshit?

 

I didnt say I was guilty of using science in a harmful way and neither r u or neone else in this forum. We cannot ignore the options given to us, for us middle class we try to conserve our money therefore we cannot afford to buy hybrid cars, organic food, and have a solar power house. It doesn't matter who is using science because a great mans invention is another mans tool of destruction. Human population would have never increased so much if it wasn't because of science which created agriculture. Yes in short term these inventions mean great but in the long term Humans + Science = destruction. Even if we find ways to live on mars you think it will be long before we destroy that too? Sure science is great and yes everyone does use it but as I said before science will lead to destruction of earth and perhaps the death of man kind.

Peace

 

reality" man fact is that we only use a certain percentage of our brain cells on a daily basis ( everyday life ) wake up " eat " do what we do " etc etc . does gettin high not open those other cells ( doorways ) to reality ? .example = are ghosts " nature spirits " rainbows " other dimentional realms ect ect not reality . coz we dont experience these things on a daily basis "does"nt mean they are not real . just some food for thought man ........cheers

 

You're a smart fellow

Reality is an illusion. Everything you see is just waveforms decoded by your brain. Think about what's behind you right now. It's not there. It's only there if your mind is decoding it. Think of video games. Is a certain area in a video game (there) if no players have it up on their screen at present? No. Only the code to create it is in the event someone enters that area of the game. The waveforms I speak of are the code.

 

please tell me more about these codes you speak of man " are we talking robots

 

Think of the movie, The Matrix. It's basically true. While our real "bodies" (we don't have any) aren't strapped to a machine powering robots, it's the same principle. We are trapped in a conscious entity I like to term the control matrix. It feeds off fear. We are infinite consciousness, infinite love, which is trapped here powering this matrix. It has us trapped in an illusion which is designed to squeeze very last drop of fear, stress and guilt from us, which only powers it further. We are all one. Polarity breeds fear, which powers the matrix.

A great book on the subject. Infinite Love Is The Only Truth, Everything Else Is Illusion by David Icke. I can answer specific questions, but giving an overview of it is too hard for me

 

hmmm interesting stuff dude .....do you not have a tongue in yer head

 

good points

 

If you do not call this reality then ill reason with you and say alright.
But do you see anyone escaping from this "fake world"? hmm if you do then please tell me cause im intrested, but if you don't then this is the best reality we have right now to put up with. And another thing, either if you blieve humans are decendet from apes or created by God, are you sayin that this "matrix" has been around since the beginning of time?, that there is no god?

 

Actually folks - all your arguments have now finally convinced me that science is bullshit.
I can demonstrate it.
When Einstein gave his theory that nothing travells faster than light. That was just some bullshit that he made up to sound impressive. Also - as every kid knows his mathematics hardly proved anything - I mean who really understands all that shit he wrote down to supposedly prove his theory. How many of us here could understand it. Perhaps he could have proved it if he wrote it down so anyone at highschool could understand it - but no - its obsfucated garbage.
Like many others in this thread I now truly believe Einstein just bigged himself up to impress some woman - all the guys stood around and pretended to understand what he had written but really it was just nonsense, they also had believed the rumour he was a genius but infact he was full of crap. You will not convince me otherwise, and as for the scientists who worked on the human genetics program... I despair at the thought of what rubbish comes from their minds

I dont belive this either - it just sounds like scientific claptrap

 

maybe nalencer could explain the matrix view to you . i personally believe their is god " one god for all " but thats a individual experience for each one of us to have . escaping from this fake world " the world is very real and is wonderfull for some people " on the other hand not so wonderfull for other people ie - poverty - war etc etc ( maybe science can explain this ). i think the only way to escape this fake world " is to try and do good for ourselves and others .

 

Well I can't force my way of opinnion to someone and I respect yours too.
There are those who like science and those who don't,
I for one don't
Peace

 

There are many people who have escaped. The definition of escape is to no longer follow the rules of the illusion. There are people who have stopped eating and sleeping with no ill effects. There are people who can walk through fire and not be burned and sit outside naked in subzero temperatures for hours without succumbing to frotbite or hypthermia. There are people who can see places miles away - remote viewers. This is in violation of the illusion rule of space. Space does not exist. I remember a story of a man who could stick things like sowrds through himself and pull them back out with no wounds. These people have mastered the escape from one to several rules of the illusion, but few have escaped from it completely. This shows that it is an illusion, however.

 

How you believe that everything is an illusion then how do you know what is real? You seem to have decided that everything is an illusion and a few isolated events are real. The rest of us decide that most thing are real but these few isolated events are illusions. My point being if you accept that anything can be an illusion I was just wondering how you decide what is real.

Though there is an argument that there a 50/50 chance we live in the matrix, im not sure where it comes from but its fairly Azimov-esque. That is if the parallel words interpretation of quantum mechanics exist, there is an infinite number of universes. Therefore an infinite number of universes with intelligent life exist, of which some will have developed a level of intelligence that allows them to build a computer that can simulate the entire universe. That simulation would have to be capable of having intelligent life grow in it as the universe has intelligent life it, we may be living in that simulation, of course you cant 'escape' from this one as ther is no physical place to escape to, but its fun to play with. Either way Im not a massive fan of parallel worlds but it is fun.

 

All things die. When u die u die from the reality u lived in.. In the end your point of view at life may be different but the world doesn't revolve around you.. Ill be honest and tell you this matrix stuff is childish, yes the government does try to brainwash people into somethings but not to the extent that there is an "Artichitect" and "Machines Controling Our Lives". Its just a movie, learn that. If you think you are living in a matrix like that then you may have some physcilogical problem. Once again your point of view at life may be different but I am seriously getting tired of blieving a single movie. You cannot base ur life on a movie, and if you do.. please get a life