Seeking Medical and Spiritual Healing

Discussion in 'Psychic' started by mojave green, Feb 17, 2008.

  1. mojave green

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    Thanks I'll look into that.
     
  2. edenfield

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    shiatsu massage would benefit you if you are looking for energy re alignment. its only a short term release but a few sessions will give you the get up and go for motivation and producivity. loss of energy is suggesting a blockage of energies, i'll re read your post mojave and figure out what points need prodding!!, and send you over the horizon remedy!
     
  3. edenfield

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    ok, I notice the connection to a metal imbalance here, the lungs and large intestines are constricted. the metal element is characteristic of energy moving inwards as in a crystal or a piece of metal that is contracted.
    not being able to move forward is a perfect example of this metal energy.
    not being able to move at all, 'feeling trapped' is enough to tell me I am right!(wink)
    having a 'hard time' and 'crushing weight' is exactly what an imbalance of metal does to one!.


    in order for me to temporary heal you, please confirm if you are feeling hardened or softened in any way, in your mental, emotional, physical and spiritual approaches to your outer world. a mental state would be of like asking yourself if you are you more stubborn, or more too easily pleasing in regard to your dealing with others.
    I need to know this in order to know whether to send you a soft heal of a more rigorous heal. because the imbalance works in one way or the other which is either more yin (pleasing) or more yang (stubborn)
    If I send you a rigourous heal and the imbalance is more yang, i could make it worse.
    okaya MJ?
    Ps, I'm not coming over to the USA, I'll send it though the midnight post!
     
  4. mojave green

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    edenfield,
    Yes! I have had severe hay fever type allergies since age 5, a lot of bronchitis, and major sinus problems. And, had double pneumonia at age 29 [I was dumb enough to smoke with the flu, another FORMER addict that The Marlboro Man almost sent to Boot Hill] -- which I feel led to the Epstein bar-chronic fatigue crash at age 30.
    I've had one alternative practioner suggest that the pnumonia virus has never fully cleared from my lungs -- sounds possible to me.
    And yes, I have had prominent life long digestive track problems as well.
    2 of my major complaints.
    Metal as in too much iron, mercury, etc.?
    Or, metal as in the metaphysical alchemical element?
    Coincidently, I have been told that according to the Chinese Zodiac, I am a Metal Rabbit. Hah!
    At the moment, I find that hard to answer.
    Right now, I don't feel like dealing with anyone or anything -- unless I absolutely have too.
    I just want to disconnect and with draw.
    I'm sure this has to do with the Spring pollens happening here. It is the peak of the season. And, two affects that pollens have on me are, as a mental depressant, and to put me into a state of absolute psychical exhaustion.
    And, seeing the season lasts for weeks, I get lost in this dark place, and lose all perspective on myself and the world around me, until it is over.
    I get easily upset and aggravated. Easily saddened. Easily discouraged. Easily angered. Much more emotional, temperamental, and unstable. Easily confused. Very spacey, and, very forgetful.
    And, I just want to sit all by myself and watch old movies.
    I feel like I don't even want to think.
    Though, at a deep inner level, I want to be OK, out and about, and enjoying life.
    I'm not sure if all this makes me more stubborn, or pleasing.
    I feel like I am both at the minute.
    I am way more likely to blow up over any little thing. And, way more likely to placate everyone, just to get them and the world, off my back. So I can just sit down and veg out.
    Also, over the course of my life, I have often been accused of being both! And, I feel both accusations are correct, at one time or another, and on this or that issue.
    I am a mood swing character. Who often finds himself far from his center, at one extreme or the other -- irregardless of seasons and pollens. They just make it worse.
    So, what if anything, dose all this tell you?

    I truly want to answer your question accurately. I am all alone, I wish I had some one here to ask.
    Sometimes I can clearly observe myself, right now I don't seem to be able to pull that off.
    If the current fog momentarily clears enough for me to get a good read on myself, I'll make another post with my observations. I WANT to do this.
    The last alternative practitioner I worked with specialized in Chinese style medicine and herbs. And he was of the opinion, that I suffered from stagnant Chi, and was BOTH, Yin AND Yang deficient. Something he said he rarely saw, and found harder to deal with. Also, he made frequent mentions of how I had liver issues -- liver as according the view of Chinese Medicine, not Western.

    Thanks for your interest, and offer of assistance. I truly appreciate it. And, hope that we can work this out soon.
    I'm interested in hearing your feed back on this.
     
  5. shameless_heifer

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    I think you need to do a full systems detox.. it sounds to me like you have a parasite..I would suggest three chinese cleans and two para-cleans.. Bee Pollen for allergies 2 caps, 3 x a day if you are blood type O and Alfalfa tea or caps for Blood Type A-B. Eat Furit and drink fruit juice, pleanty of water and no meat or dairy while on the cleans.. if there is Stomach envolvement, I would get a blood test for H-Pylori..I just got through battling H-Pylori and I had many of the same symtoms as your have.

    Bright Blessings
    sh
     
  6. edenfield

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    you have deficient metal. In which case your power of elimination would be weak. The metal element controls your sinus, nose, skin, lungs large intestines, and when imbalanced contributes to physical ailments in these areas, mentally you probably feel of little value, lack boundaries, find self disipline difficult, and any stucture in your life would give way to unorganization, I could go on!
    it's ok going to a chinese herbalist but unfortunatley if they dont study accupunture or shiatsu they dont have a clue about how energy works and how to treat it. Fortunatley I do.
    so doing a detox would be hard for you because your power of elimination(which is the power of the metal element ) is stagnant, and would take too much time for the toxins to eliminate, so you may probably feel like its not working.
    I'll give you a PM later when I have a better think.
     
  7. zengizmo

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    I know you a bit, mojave, so I decided to chime in here, for what it's worth.
    From my observations of you, mojave, I would agree with you and the Chinese herbalist. Outwardly you seem extremely pleasing most of the time - noticeably so. However I see stubbornness, too - some of it in your words, and some that I can infer from your behavior. ;) Almost as stubborn as I am, even - maybe...
     
  8. mojave green

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    Thanks everyone for your insights and suggestions. They all help me to find my way on this.

    And thanks Zen, for stepping in and being my observer, your insights are correct. And so diplomatically put.

    I do make a concerted effort to be pleasing and pleasant to people. Partly because I just like to be. And, partly because I do have a lot of submerged inner anger, and I'm always working against that. I hate when it shows through. [which is why this post got edited] There's already enough of that in the world. I don't need to add to it.

    As far as stubborn goes, at times I can be a mountain range of granite!
     
  9. zengizmo

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    Yeah, a mountain range of stubbornness is about right - that's what I feel from you, too. LOL Well what are ya gonna do, ya know? I've been reading Sonia Choquette's book called Diary of a Psychic - her autobiography. And I've been thinking, "Damn, she is such a saintly person, and I am such a slime!" LOL Whatever. It is what it is. ;)

    Actually I'm gonna tell you an anecdote - I attended her Claiming Your Intuition workshop in Boston last Saturday. At one point she was walking around among the audience, talking about different kinds of people, and suddenly she said, "Troublemaker." And she was very close to me when she said it, and it sounded like she had turned toward me and directed this word at me. LOL I told the woman I was sitting next to, "I think she just got me." She went on to say that if you're a troublemaker, your role is to challenge people's ingrained beliefs. Well that's me, all right - I revel in challenging people's unthinking biases.

    But enough about me. LOL Back to you, mojave. This is an interesting thread. I hope you find the healing you're looking for. Wouldn't it be something if, after all these years of sufferering, someone finally came along who can fix what ails you? Somehow I'm thinking this might be a distinct possibility...
     
  10. mojave green

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    I hope you are right about that. That is what I'm praying for and working towards. And every little piece of the puzzle I find helps me to get there.

    I am very surprised and thankful for all the helpful replies to this thread. And I do wonder just what might come from it.

    However I do have to say, that deep inside, I feel like all I have to do is make some decision, flip some inner switch, and just shut it off. And, I wonder why I haven't -- and still don't.

    You [Zen] once told me, "Just rise up!"

    It's funny I feel like I don't know how to. And yet I sense that yes, I actually do.
    And I feel as if I truly believe that I want to. So why don't I? If that IS the case. Or, am I just kidding myself on that?

    And I hate to admit all of this. Why would I let this go on?
    That is an answer I definitely need to hear -- and at the same time, shudder at the thought of hearing -- because, I'm sure I won't like what it will expose about me, to me.
    And, maybe that is why I let it go on.

    I suspect that this is the critical piece of the puzzle. What is my mind and spirit doing to allow and create this -- and, why?

    Actually, the Universe keeps repeatedly slamming me with this message. I am my own savior, and my own healing. To the point where I accept it, and admit it.

    So why do I still feel powerless and helpless? And why don't I know what to do, or is it allow myself to know what to do?

    How and why am I still in my own way. And how do I change that?

    Believe me, I'm praying, I'm meditating, I'm asking, I'm seeking.

    But then again -- I am a mountain range of granite.
     
  11. zengizmo

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    I don't remember what my state of mind was when I told you that. Lots of times I feel the same way you do - that I'm standing in my own way, that I have the key to unlock my own prison door. And I feel like I can almost see that key, but not quite...

    So right at this moment I'm apparently not as enlightened as I was when I told you to just rise up. But if I get a glimmer sometime, I'll give you the benefit of any insights I get.
     
  12. edenfield

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    hey
     
  13. zengizmo

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    Edenfield, I literally lost sleep last night over your response to mojave. I share his issue, though the manifestation and symptoms are different. And so I'm thinking, "Okay, how does one actually go about the process of dis-identifying with one's mind?" So I tried to stay awake longer as I was lying in bed last night, thinking, "I am not this body, I am not this mind." But then I thought, "So then, who the hell am I?" I have nowhere else to go. This body and this mind are everything I know. So edenfield: Can you offer any practical elaboration on your comments to mojave?​
     
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    edenfield,
    I will look into The Power of Now. Some one else once recommended that book to me as well. But, at the time life distracted me from it, and I forgot about it until now. I will have to get a copy.

    As I have said before, The Universe keeps sending the same message over and over, and probably will until I get it.

    Now it is your turn to be the messenger. Thanks.
    I hope so.
     
  15. mojave green

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    Zen,
    Looks like I started something here.
    Interesting how we are often drawn one way or another to what we are seeking for ourselves through others.
    Just goes to show, no matter how it seems to us, we are never really alone with our issues.
    I hope we all find what we are seeking.
     
  16. zengizmo

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    I found The Power of Now on Amazon. I read the first three reviews - the second review in particular verified some thoughts I've been having very recently, especially where he says that Eckhart made an important oversight for failing to note that his own enlightenment came as a gift when he was near suicide. The verification to me is that it's not about a particular formulaic behavior, it's about experience, and each one of us has a unique one, a unique path, and all those paths eventually lead to the same place.

    I just get impatient. VERY impatient. And what really pisses me off is that the experiences that seem to be most necessary for achieving enlightenment are the ones that are like a living hell.

    But it is what it is, is it not?
     
  17. edenfield

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    'watch the thinker'

    to begin to free yourself from your mind(true liberation)
    be on guard to 'watch' the 'thinker (be it in your head or 'out loud' (as I do [​IMG]
    listen to the voice inside your head, pay attention to the repetitive thought patterns. be there as the witnessing presence.
    listen to it impartially, without judgement or condemnation as to do so would mean the same voice has crept back in again. when you realize <there> is the voice, and <here> i am listening to it.... the 'I am' (or the sense of your own presence) has arrived! this presence is not a thought, but beyond mind.
    the aim of 'end of all suffering' is to escape from the waffle of mindscape.

    then you will learn HOW to use the mind, instead of the mind using you.

    took me almost 2 bloody years to watch the thinker never mind out else...hahaha, but don't let that put you off guys, I'm a slow learner.[​IMG]
     
  18. zengizmo

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    Ah, so...thank you for the explanation, Eden. It's like Zen meditation, then.

    To a large extent this involves becoming more aware of your own thoughts. I first started doing this in 1999 when this woman in my office I had never spoken to started making comments out loud about my unvoiced thoughts from her cubicle down the hall. Disparaging comments, mostly. And she caught nuances that I was allowing to slip by my conscious awareness. So after some time being majorly pissed off at her, I started making the effort to mentally verbalize as many thoughts as I could for long periods of time, and I did become more aware of what was going on in my head - and eventually I found her in my head also, and then started hearing her telepathic voice...and then followed various manifestations of hell - and heaven - in my life.

    So talk about slow, Eden - it's been nine years now for me, and I'm still not getting it. Yeah, I can sit and observe my thoughts - I see exactly what I'm doing to piss myself off and have negative expectations. What now? You're saying the me that is watching these thoughts can take control of them? I'm not sure I'm strongly motivated to do so - and I wonder if it will really make any difference. Maybe I haven't experienced the duality of myself to the extent I need to...
     
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    Wow! What a GREAT thread. I learn soooo much from you guys. Edenfield, you are right on. I know this, but it is so damn hard to be vigilant. And that is the key isn't it? To be vigilant.....best to everybody.....
     
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    I read a really good book that speaks of what edenfield is talking about, if anybody is interested, called "You Are That...Satsang with Gangaji".
     

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