Sex after marriage?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by FeelinGroovy, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. MrRee

    MrRee Senior Member

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    Misinformation here m'boy!
    The urban myth presumes that castrates have no sex drive, but that is not correct. Castrates can and do have sexual arousal and desire, and can engage in sex.
    Each person is different and will experience variations in the effects of castration. Unfortunately I can’t tell you how much your sex drive will decrease, or if you will have any left after castration. Some people will totally lose their drive after castration, and some will still have some drive although a much reduced drive. Before you get castrated, you have to accept that you may lose more drive than you wish to lose.
    http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/CastrationFactors.html


    Sexual desire, libido, drive, whatever will most certainly change in some way without HRT, but that merely affects _level_ of need for sexual contact (not necessarily level of _desire_ for sexual contact: one is physical, one is psychological), not whom one might wish to contact...
    http://www.bmeworld.com/smooth/01_01.htm#desire


    Basically, sexual desire and functionality is a mind-driven response. That is why fetishes have such an arousing effect. It is not so much the substance of the fetish touching the body that elicits the bodily response, it is the minds knowing that the object of desire/fascination is present that causes the hormonal cascade that generates the bodily response.
    Which bodily hormone generates thought, by your estimation?
    Better ask your big toe!
     
  2. FeelinGroovy

    FeelinGroovy opposable thumb

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    Don't get too cocky fellow.

    Ok, I don't want to go into detail here, but take it from a person with a Ph.D. who's profession is biomedical research. It is hormones that mainly controls a sex drive. A person with a more aggressive sex drive usually produces more of certian hormones. Testosterone for example. Testosterone is the main hormone responsible for sexual maturation and sex drive in males. The testes (testicles) produce testosterone. If the testicles are removed, then no more testosterone production and a much weakened if not abolished sex drive. Ask any M.D. urologist and they will agree. Of course there may be some residual "sex drive" that may be derived out of habbit, social confidence, self esteem, or mental/emotional issues.

    This is not an urban myth, but scientific fact based on human anatomy and physiology and represented in any credible medical text.
     
  3. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    They had this mag in jail called 'plumpers'...
     
  4. MollyBloom

    MollyBloom Member

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    Well, it's too late for me. Save yourselves!!!

    The most meaningful and life-changing relationship of my life lasted for 4 1/2 years and we did not have full out intercourse (but everything else.)

    However, my last relationship of almost two years was much more satisfying in the physical aspect since we did have sex.

    So, I'm a Christian..I have sex before marriage in committed relationships. I only know of one of my friends who is a virgin and is waiting ...and she is an atheist.
     
  5. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    You can fuck furniture...
     
  6. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    I don't believe you, Molly. Prove it to me. :D
     
  7. FeelinGroovy

    FeelinGroovy opposable thumb

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    I had a college biology professor who insisted on using the word "fucking" to describe animal copulation. He thought that was the most fitting word, because he thought it was an act purely out of instinct and not associated with love or emotion of any kind in nature.
     
  8. MrRee

    MrRee Senior Member

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    Don't get too dandy with your letters, chappy ~ up to 10% of testosterone is produced in the adrenal glands.
    Loss of libido isn't eliminationm of libido, and what you state If the testicles are removed, then no more testosterone production and a much weakened if not abolished sex drive is exactly what was I posted above ~ Some people will totally lose their drive after castration, and some will still have some drive although a much reduced drive................. but that merely affects _level_ of need for sexual contact (not necessarily level of _desire_ for sexual contact
    So what's your point?
    You also might like to look up "parasympathetic nervous system" ~ it controls erections.
    Pity the poor saps on the receiving end of your "biomedical research".
     
  9. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    I don't see a point in waiting for marriage. You should wait until you're ready, obviously, but why is that time defined only be marriage? <----rhetorical question
     
  10. FeelinGroovy

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    Are you offering any classes, professor.

    By the way, your additional information is true for the most part. As I said before, I didn't want to go into detail for fear that I would lose most readers without a medical background. And I still feel that (scientifically supported) sex drive mainly originates from the action of testosterone, which is produced mainly in the testes, and therefore, is more physically/chemically/physiologically derived than it is mentally/emotionally derived.

    And, Yes, I too feel sorry for the poor saps on the receiving end of my biomedical research. If I didn't, I guess I wouldn't have so much passion for what I do. Maybe someday even you will find benefit from some treatment or therapeutic that I helped eveloped. Most of us researchers are not cocky or out to prove anything to anyone about our knowledge. We are just modest workers trying to ultimately help as many people as we can.

    You sound eager to prove how smart you are, hopefully you are also using your gift of inteligence to benefit society and help people other than just getting kicks out of sounding smart on this forum.
     
  11. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    not surprising that this thread has turned into what it did. A very small percentage of the people on here actually want to discuss the "pros" rather than the "cons" of waiting to have sex. Most dont want to admit that there ARE good reasons for waiting.

    I'll just quote myself and see if anyone wants to get back on track.



     
  12. FeelinGroovy

    FeelinGroovy opposable thumb

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    Yeah, strange.

    Anyway, lets get back on track.

    Pre-marital sex: for it or against it?
     
  13. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    hhehe, feeling groovy, you and i just posted at the exact same time. GLad we're both trying to get things back on track. *cheers*
     
  14. FeelinGroovy

    FeelinGroovy opposable thumb

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    EVERYTHING happens in "the eyes of god". Some just happen to acknowledge it! When both people acknowledge God in their relationship and both their hearts are truely pure, then they can be sure that it will prosper endlessly. Just my feelings, anyway.

    yeah, I thought that was kind of weird also.

    anyway, I checked out your music:http://simpleroots.com/music.php
    It was awesome! :D
     
  15. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    this is not about me or my relationship. i should have left that part of my quote out the second time. The reason i'm bringing GOd and Satan and the other bullshit into the mix is because it's a CHRISTIAN FORUM dude and we are discussion CHRISTIAN issues. Sex before marriage is an issue that alot of Christian battle with. Being Christian isnt easy, alot of it is about going against the flow. Dont try to change the subject here. I'm sure if you're so smart then you can come up with some reasons of your own for NOT keeping sex for marriage, and why it's a good idea.

    in this fallen world the miracle of two people who lose thier virginity to eachother and stay together for life because they are truly in love can still happen! We are not together because of fear OR guilt. What God has joined, let no man separate!
    relationships can work without God, but will never reach the level of depth that can be reached with GOd in the middle of it. The closer we get to GOd, the closer we get to eachother.
    There are planty of non-Christians who are married, commonlaw, shacking up, having long distance relationships, shagging ont he weekends, ect ect.....who are in love and committed. It seems you are asking why marriage is so important to GOd. There's lots God has to say about it, but to Him it is the ultimate symbolism of His love for His bride, the Church.


    Ephesians 5:21-33


    21) Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ.


    22) Wives, be subject to your husbands, as to the Lord.
    23) For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior.
    24) As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.
    25) Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,
    26) that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
    27) that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
    28) Even so husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
    29) For no man ever hates his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,
    30) because we are members of his body.
    31) "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh."
    32) This mystery is a profound one, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church;
    33) however, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.

     
  16. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    thanks so much for listening and posting about it. Share the love! hey, did you sign the guestbook! if not, get your buns back in there. lol new listeners are RAD
     
  17. FeelinGroovy

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    Dude, you've got serious problems. I will pray for you. Then you will be the first one I add to my ignore list.
     
  18. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    you better get that checked out, incontinence can be embarrassing sometimes.

    i didnt say i knew that, i just said it's possible.
    My husband is perfectly satisfied with me and finds contentment in our long term monogamous relationship. I have nothing to worry about, we keep eachother more than satisfied. I'm not worried about him looking elsewhere so you're right, that's not the way i looka t things. Is that the way YOU look at things? That's too bad. I hope you and your girlfriend have a nice life too.

    wow dude, chill. Kinda rude to be calling people names, wouldnt you say? Breathe. Maybe you should read what i said again. I'm sure your love between you and your wife is great. Love is the most powerful force in the world. All i was saying is that having God as the foundation of marriage makes it all that much stronger. I wasnt comparing our relationship to yours.

    A little short tempered are we?
    i see what's going on here,
    as soon as a Christian speaks thier mind around here you blow your top.

    you can trample on me and my pearls all you like, call me names and call my husband names, but i will still remain respectful to you.
    God says to loe your enemies and it looks like you want to be my enemy, and that's your choice. But i didnt do anything except share my convictions and feelings just like everyone else around here.
     
  19. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    bicker bicker bicker.



    i dont get the humour but glad i made you laugh. How's that incontinence doing today? and thanks for calling me a name yet again! love ya!((((BIG HUG))))
     
  20. seahorse

    seahorse Senior Member

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    you must be quite a mess. no ass and pants full of piss. *high five*
    but seriously, are you just gonna laugh at me from now on or can we get back to the discussion. Maybe you're taking time to think of your next response. Keep rubbing your hands together, you'll think of something, bud!
     
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