How do I know no cars were dragged right off the overpass and onto the front lawn of the Pentagon, Otter? Photographic evidence my dear. Not only do you not see the plane debris, nor any scarring of the lawn from the inevitable debris of a 757, but considering how low the plane would have to be flying to achieve that low an impact (clearly the lower floors which arent even the height of a jumbo jet itself) it would have had to have been only mere feet above any cars as it passed overhead and youd have seen those cars strewn about the lawn itself from the drag it would have caused. I doubt any planes flying over your nearby highway are not practically scraping the overpass itself as the coverstory of the Pentagon strike would require of this fated flight. Beyond all that, the inescapable credibility issue of the whole matter concerns the fact that the pilot in question would never have been able to fly such a plane in the first place.
Damn straight... fuckin FBI... ::mutters:: I wonder what's going on. Why the hell don't they tell us anything?!
*puts on sunglasses* Ok people, everything is going to make perfect sense. All I need you to do is look at this red light and I will explain everything. *FLASH*
cynical_otter. the plane was hitting 500 some miles an hour when it crossed that highway and crashed into the building. a plane landing/taking off is going much slower. i think takeoff speed is around 200. there's a road that goes right next the OIA also, and yes, no cars fly off the road. and we're not talking about the twins. open your mind.
Here Angel, this is a smaller version, so it should probably downlod faster for you, or anyone else with slow internet. http://ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html
Wiow thanks a lot man. As for the video, it is no suprise for me, me, along with Lickherish and Pressed Rat, have been leading the "Questiong 9/11" movement at this forum. It is SOO obvious that 9/11 was a government set up to furthur the police state America, and more importantly, Furthur the New World Order lead by the Illumanati and the Global Elite. You can see the NWO by the take over of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Soon Iran. Soon we will control the entire Middle East (Except Saudi Arabia and Israel) and move on to the next countries that the Illumanati want control of. You see people, George W. Bush and his entire administration may seem evil, but not as evil as the illumanati, in which they are slaves too, just as Hitler Was. My belief is that all leaders are slaves to the Illumanati, and it is their mission to take over the world, and whoever does gets a reward (Whatever the reward is) Hitler came very close to fulfilling the Illumanati's plan, but made the grave mistake of taking on Russia and America at the same time, which led to his destruction. After Hitler's downfall the Cold war ensued. You see, The real role behind the cold war was that the Soviet Union wanted to please the Illumanati and Control the world, and so did the US, so that is what led to the creation of the cold war, a fight for the Illumanati's pleasure. Once America won, It was clear where they needed to go. Clinton came and the FBI, along with the CIA planned and carried out the Oklahoma City Bombing, and you say "No, it was timothy Mcveigh, why would the government blow up its own Federal Building?", Why? to implement the anti-terrorism bill of '96 which obliterated the Bill of rights and constitution. Where is the proof you ask?? Well, there were 12 security camers all around which recorded EVERYTHING, yet the FBI refuses to release the footage taped by these cameras, and even in court, when they were trying to put Tomothy Mcveigh in jail, they did not use this footage, WHY NOT? if it was in fact Mcveigh, why would they not use the REAL footage to automatically prove him guilty?? Why? it's obvious, Federal Involvement. This Bombing did not prove to be big enough for the government to implement the global police state, so the Plan of 9/11 became to come into plan. Clinton even received an offer from the Sudan that they could arrest and hand over Bin Laden to the US, but of course, Clinton denied this, and denied any FBI investigations into al Queda. Of course it is well documented that Osama is working with the CIA to impelemntt these terror attacks to create a Global Police state, so the US government did everything in its power to protect Osama and his followers, and Bush even signed the Bill I991, which prevented any FBI agents from Investigating Osama or any Al Queda Operatives, which led to the government funded 9/11 attacks, where 3,000 innocent people died for the Illumanti's sick plan of New World Order. Read the facts and it comes clear...open your mind.... Peace and Love, Dan
Then what does the footage on news channels convince you of? That would mean that would have to convince you of nothing equally as well.
have any articles been written on this subject? If so could someone provide some links. I am very interested in learning more. thanks
so, did this film answer any questions? I am always skeptical of "information from a spurious source" that opens cans of worms and walks away. lookit the names quoted as witnesses.It chat room fodder nothing more. ask the families of the passengers of that flight if it landed on time and that their families are ok. aretyou really trying to hand me that that a 757 crashed, that wreckage was covered up, another smaller plane was flown into the pentagon, that was covered up and that no one was the wiser? get a clue people.
As convincing and shocking as the video might seem, we all need to keep in mind that the supposed eyewitness accounts and qoutes could be manufactured by the makers of the film. Just a thought. The lawn could also be a clever job of photoshop. No matter if the attack was fabricated or not, we need to be respectful and mindful of the victims of the attacks.
Of course, you can't just go around believing everything you see on the internet, and the "facts" presented here warrant further investigation. But... "No matter if the attack was fabricated or not, we need to be respectful and mindful of the victims of the attacks." I've heard this a lot whenever anyone brings up alternative theories concerning 9/11/2001. Investigating a terror attack does not disrespect the victims any more than a detective investigating a murder disrespects the victims. Now, just letting them be dead and not bothering to investigate, or even trying to tell people they shouldn't investigate "out of respect for the victims", that is disrespecting the victims in my mind. I hope that if I'm murdered, people investigate and don't just accept the first explanation offered.
I think you misunderstood me, im saying that when we refer to a touchy subject like sep 11, at least for some americans, we cannot simply say "there were no planes, it was a bomb." What are we supposed to say to the hipforum members who were directly affected by it. Its all well and good to look into things like this, but I think its better if we strayed away from saying it never happened.
Most of the names stem from quotes taken from actual news sources, including such common ones as the Washington Post and Associated Press. All you have to do is take the names and run them through Google to see that they are indeed valid names, not "chatroom fodder." None of the Pentagon footage was edited, as this is the exact same footage that has been out there since the attacks occured. I have seen photographs taken from both the US Department of Defense website, as well as the US Army website, and they show the exact same thing.
I sent this video to a lot of people and many of them sent it to others they know...it's great, getting people to question things. One complaint, the video goes too fast, I'm a fast reader and I had trouble keeping up, the pictures are shown too fast too, people think they are being fooled when info is presented that way. The website is helpful in answering questions though.
listern carefully to what hitlers saying at the start of the film starts with a blaming something on “eine kleine internationale Clique”... which meant for him... “Rich Jews”, the “internationales Finanzjudentum” (Wall Street Jews) that would plunge the world into another World War. hmmmmmmm who does this conspiracy theory serve, whose anti-jewish and would like you to think that they didnt do the attack ? this looks at whether or not it was a plane http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm
i had heard htis theory before but had not paid it much attention...that was scary...although not entirely surprising
the illuminati controlled both sides then as they do now...hitler didnt fail at fulfilling the illuminati's plan...he was a tool, and when his role was completed he was disposed of. history makes alot more sence when you factor in the illuminati...everything we're taught in history class happened for a reason...to progress the agenda. that agenda is reaching its most critical point and nearing its end. time is a factor these days, they have until 2012 to get us where they want us, and we until 2012 to free our minds and spirits. look at the track record and the agenda will reveal itself...start with ancient egypt and sumeria and work forward. thats all im going to say for now. *end paranoid rant*
Doesn't anybody remember all the eyewitness accounts concerning the pentagon? Even the website http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm has ended this debate. I'm always looking for a good conspiracy myself, but this one just doesn't measure up.