shooting animals for sport and food

You mean you've never taken down a black bear with a sling shot? Geez, I do that all the time...

 

Do you perhaps use bricks? Wait, how big is your slingshot

 

we will learn from our mistakes when our mistakes force us to. this climate change thing may be the beginning of just that.

as for a voluntary way of solving the human population problem. killing wouldn't work even if it could be justified. the population increses immediately fallowing wars and even genocides prove that.

what could be done, is to put something in the water, that reduces fertility in a totally NON-biased and non-selective way. instead of course, what will happen, is there will be famines and epidemics where we don't believe them likely or even possible today.

not coming in solvable one at a times, but cascading and mutating and thus sandbagging systems of analyzing and finding solutions to them.

when population has returned to something environmentally sustainable, they will then statistically almost disappear. we can choose which way, or by not choosing, choose nature's, which is that of famine and disease.

extinctions and loss of species diversity isn't mostly caused by over hunting. there have been thousands of extinctions (not counting insect species in millions? billions?) in the last hundred years or so, and among them only one or two resulting from hunting. that's something like less then 1 or 2 percent.

habitat loss resulting from human activity is instead, the cause of nearly all of them.

 

Well, yes. Whichever way you look at it, man is directly or indirectly responsible for almost all of the species extinctions in the recent centuries at least.

Whether it's from hunting, or destruction of other species' natural habitats, is almost a moot point. Although you are wrong to suggest that only one or two species have become extinct in the last 100 years through hunting. Just talking about tigers alone, 3 sub-species have become extinct as a direct result of hunting in the last 100 years. And tigers as an entire species are currently severely endangered almost entirely because of hunting.

 

Well we're at the top of the food chain so it couldn’t be any other way


What we need is some healthy competition :2thumbsup:


Hotwater

 

Release the wolves!

 

I don't think "food" has anything to do with why humans have hunted tigers to the brink of extinction. Which is the huge difference between us, and the rest of nature's predators. Humans hunt and kill for reasons other than food. If humans only hunted for food, many extinct animal species would still be alive today, and many other species currently under threat of extinction, wouldn't be.

As for healthy competition... I can't see that happening, unless a genocidal alien race decides to invade Earth.

 

Then you don’t know the chinese because they love their tiger wine and tiger penis soup


hotwater

 

Tiger parts are only consumed in China for their so-called "medicinal properties". And so therefore, to say they are killed as a "food source", is misguided and false. Despite the fact there is no scientific or medical proof of any medical benefits from the consumption of tiger parts, tigers are still killed for traditional Chinese medicine. They are really being killed for medicines which have no medicinal properties whatsoever. So the primary reason tigers are consumed in China is not for the food, but for their (non-existent) medicinal value. Tiger bone wine, and Tiger penis soup are both considered as part of Chinese traditional medicine.

 

We’re arguing semantics, pure semantics

H

 

Not so. Unless you actually believe that consuming Tiger Penis Soup helps with male sexual performance and greater sexual prowess. Or that steeping wine in tiger bones cures ailments such as malaria, and asthma. Tigers are actually bred in China (illegally, not that the Chinese government does much to clamp down on this) purely to make the latter. It's one thing consuming something as a necessity for your life source, and another out of myth and superstition. So saying arguing the difference between the two is "semantics", is extremely misleading and not very accurate. It's also like saying that the Chinese who believe that the more an animal suffers during death, the better tasting the meat, is a just, and ethical viewpoint.

 

nice man! you've got an informed outlook on the situation. My neighborhood is overrun with deer at night. I'm probably going to sit on my roof tonight and wait on them. When they get close enough I'll probably dive on top of one and get a mid-air throat stab on it.

 

Using a knife is the proper way to kill a deer because a gun is too much of a tactical advantage

When you slit the deer’s throat remember the old injun custom (to show respect) by looking into its eyes :2thumbsup:

Hotwater

 

Haha!!