Should gun safety be taught in schools like sex ed is?

I always thought that more practical classes were needed in schools. Such as interpersonal relationship classes, researching classes, consumer awareness classes, etc. etc.

Are you aware of free schools, unschooling, and alternative schooling?

There was a great article on Wikipedia about free schools for children, but it isn't there anymore

 

I'm familiar with it.

I just think that public high schools could, and should, be wonderful tools, instead they're boring shitholes that exist to fulfill the power/control fantasies of the small penis'd principal.

 

This depends a lot on where you come from. In many countries, private individuals cannot even own guns, so it wouldn't make any sense to teach gun safety in school. In South Africa (where I come from), you need to have a license before you can buy a gun and part of the process of getting a license is safety training (at least in theory). I think that makes a lot of sense. If you have kids and you have a firearm, it's your responsibility to keep them safe, not the school's.

I guess bottom line, I wouldn't encourage gun safety training at school unless everyone already has access to guns, it simply wouldn't make sense.

 

Well this post will probably be shot down faster than Ghaddaffi in a hang-glider...but here in the UK,the LAST thing we think about teaching our schoolchildren is gun control.
It just DOES NOT enter our tiny English minds that children need to know about guns/weapons.
We carry knives-the folding type,2" blade-but only for sharpening pencils or getting horses off of stones.
To think a whole COUNTRY full of testosterone-fuelled hormonal teenagers all have firearm knowledge coupled with curiosity and a belief that only the old die...blimey!

Honestly-over here,we just CANNOT understand the US's need to own guns.
After all,you lock teenagers up for smoking weed,yet the same teenager can legally carry a gun.
Well,given the choice,I'd rather face a hormonal teenager with a joint than with a loaded 38.
That may seem trite-but during my service I used/faced enough firearms to last me another three lifetimes.
Never saw one aimed in friendship,though.

 

I agree on both sides of the issue -- while giving tips on how to use a gun is an awful idea, I think having a guest speaker from a police officer or a NRA member or something that can teach kids that guns aren't toys, and let them understand the fact that people die from guns its not just a game. It would allow the kids to get an early understanding when they are learning the most to avoid the gun and not play with it if they were to come into a situation where the ideas going through their mind are only from gangster movies.

 

Most of them are there to meet the bare minimum. And people wonder why we're slowly losing our position as world leader.

 

Puggybear... I dunno, a joint might do more damage than a 38, those things don't even punch through car doors.

Did you just say knives are limited to 2" in the UK? Good god, they don't want you having ANY capacity to resist ehh.... my carry knife is 3.5 inches, and it's a little'un. My next one will be 4.5 or larger.... though that one will be of my own design and forging.

 

It's just a case of living in different worlds,RooRshack.
I honestly don't know anyone-legal or otherwise-who owns a gun for anything other than pest control on farms,or target sport shooting.
The latter tend to be Co2,the former are 12-gauge shotguns.
Neither type is carried nor used as everyday protection.
If we have a robbery over here which involves firearms,it makes the news BIG-TIME,as it's so unusual-and EVERYONE helps hunt the perpetrator down.
I'm not saying we never have a firearm used by teenage 'hard men' in their internecine fights...but when it happens,the whole country goes on the lookout for the user,and he/she WILL be brought down.
Even our police feel very self-concious about having to carry a firearm on the odd occasions it's deemed necessary.
You speak of resistance-believe me when I tell you anyone pulling a gun over here is likely to get belted round the head by a granny swinging her handbag...then stamped into the ground for ruining her day!
Don't get me wrong-I was a Royal Marine and most of my friends have served in the armed forces-but we prefer civvy street to be the peaceful life. If a ruck starts,fists knees,heads,elbows and granny's handbag all wade in to stop it.
All pulling a firearm will get you over here is temporary fame as a loser.
And if it actually discharges and you hit/kill someone-don't stop running till you're past Jupiter!

 

No, I don't think the government should do anything to encourage gun ownership.

 

Kids already have too if they want to hunt. I took it back in the 70's..It was just a one night class, thought it was at the courthouse, but anyways I had a card that stated I had completed the class afterwards...I dont know how they do it nowdays and I dont remember much about that class either...

 

I just finished watching Bowling for Coumubine. It pointed out a lot of things. One thing other countries have a lot of guns too pllus easy to obtain ammo but have very very low murder rates..these countries listen to the same music, play the same video games and watch the same movies as we. So whats the difference? The fearmongering by the media and the right wing in this country and the indifferent additude of the nra. And to be fair a lack of parental supervision..
The right to bear arms does not mean specificly guns. There are other means to defend ourselves. My cousin took Martial Arts or Karate..whatever you want to call it. teach the kids that instead.
It is and always should be a persons right to defend themselves however that does not mean that each and every person should become their own judge, jury and executioner..

 

Bowling for Columbine is a fraud that was made purely for controversy and profit.

 

Youll have to excuse my spelling What do you find contivirisal Duck? He disproves the theroys we currently have including the one about the guns themselves. He talks with Militia people and they are friendly and speak openly about their beliefs. Speaks with Terry Michales?? even and he is friendly and open about his belifs as well. He uses Canada as an example of other contries and we learn that yes individules do own guns, there is not much trouble in getting a gun or ammo for that matter. But now we learn something important. Canadians are more trusting and less violent. And when people are more trusting fewer people feel the need to own a gun. Thus there are less gun owners.

So that brings us back to the big question..Why are Americans more violent and mistrusting???The media is largly to blame. Most Americans belive what they see on the news, which is rightwing controlled, bias plus they are greed drivin, constanlty trying to raise their ratings. Death and destruction always get peoples attention.. The right wing have been been using fear to scare and brainwash us into beliving that the communists are comming for us and now of course its the Moslem brotherhood. They and the nra also insist that the intent of any gun conrol will remove all guns from the people rendering us unable to defend ourselves from the hords..Right wing political mouthpieces with their tv shows going you should be mad you should be mad and if that hasnt got you mad yet wait untill you hear this one...Oviously there is more to the problem than this but is a hell of a good start.

but to get this back to the topic. Gun safety class in school. That will imply to the kid that gun ownership is expected of him. and that just plays right along with the beliefs of the right wing and nra. Just because you can (own a gun) doesnt mean you should. Back in the 70s in order for a kid to get a hunting license I had to take a one eveining gun safety class and that is all it takes and thats all we need now

 

You clearly didn't even look at the link.

 

As a matter of fact I did. Moore does exaggerate things a little, like everyone else...Thats why you never take any film of this nature as gosple. Keep an open mind and use your own judgement..

 

So sex ed would imply that having underage sex is expected? NO, IT DOES NOT.

Just like sex, guns are something that people should know how to handle safely. Doesn't mean they ever need to, if they don't feel like it.

Also, fuck bowling for columbine. And fuck the gift to gun control people that columbine was. They used shitty low quality semi-automatic weapons, and then the thing became a poster child for banning high quality automatic weapons. (if those little turds had automatic weapons, they probably would have hit considerably less people, too....)

 

I disagree. Sex is part of life, guns are not. Where I live in Boston, hardly anybody owns a gun. In fact, I don't know anybody who does. Gun ownership greatly increases the chances of suicide and accidental death. I expect to live my entire life without ever firing a gun. It's better that way.

 

I think financial literacy should be taught in school, but I don't know about gun safety. There are a lot of people out there who don't want to own guns, but everybody has to pay to eat and live (unless they're independently wealthy, and if that's the case they won't be in public schools anyway).

 

This seems to me to be more of a by-family for-family thing, not disassociated/neutrally-taught to masses in schools.

 

Are the schools having such an easy time teaching the three R's, science, math, sex ed. and diversity, that something else needs to go onto their ToDo list?