Should Quebec be its own country?

Discussion in 'Canada' started by The Earth, Aug 10, 2010.

  1. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    I am well aware of this, I am 75% Acadian. My grandfather converted his last name to the English version for some reason. Also the french here in NS do not like the Quebec french either. If Quebec separated I don't see the need to keep all of Canada bilingual for just 13% remaining. Bilingual is a waste of resources.
     
  2. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Are we using percentages of the speakers of the language to make these choices now?

    Let's see which provinces speak which shall we?

    http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/biling_e.php

    Oh look...

    With the exception of New Brunswick and Quebec, over 85% of everyone speaks ONLY english...

    Hmmm... that sure makes me curious... If 85% isnt enough to ensure they don't need to learn languages they don't care about, I wonder how high the french only speaking percentage is in those two provinces?

    Quebec: 53.8%
    New Brunswick: 9.2%

    Now isnt that odd...

    I wonder what the numbers for all of canada combined are?

    Out of 29,639,030
    20,014,645 Only English
    3,946,525 Only French
    5,231,575 Both
    446,290 Other

    So... that small percentage of french people, are dictating to the rest of the population AND trying to get their culture and heritage to suppressed in order to promote thier own...

    hmmm... A small minority oppressing the majority in order to promote their own well being... While claiming to be oppressed themselves and using that as an excuse....

    damn if that doesn't sound familiar...

    p.s. Notice that my statements come with facts to back them up, while other people are happy tossing out FALSE numbers to support their argument.
     
  3. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Out of the two goups... english and french (of the 'we are precious' crowd, not ALL french people)...

    one group has said, "we have no problem sharing",
    the other group said, "No, we are too precious to risk by sharing"

    One group said, "It's okay if you speak a different language, we'll work with you"
    the other said, "Fuck you, only MY language should be used"

    One group said... "Let's let bygones be bygones and build a country"
    the other said "We Remember" and have worked to destroy that country since...

    One group recognizes that all of Canada doesn't speak english and doesn't demand that they be spoke to in english when they go to quebec..
    the other demands the every living being in canada should learn their language...

    One of these groups is most definitely self centered, judgmental and oppressive to those not the same as them...
     
  4. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Look... here's some more facts... same page as the last time so I wont bother linking it again....

     
  5. Montreal-Mark

    Montreal-Mark Membre

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    You're still a goof.
     
  6. GardenGuy

    GardenGuy Senior Member

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    As a southern American who lives maybe 1000 miles south of the Canadian border, I don't really care whether my "neighbors" are Canadian or Quebecians.
    I don't mean that in an uncaring way I would wish them well no matter who was in charge.

    I would suppose that the people of Quebec should decide what the will of the majority is.

    Here, Cubanos and Mexicanos are the ethnicities who play the biggest role in our daily life other than Anglo. You really don't hear French spoken. Spanish is the language that is helpful for befriending your neighbors and for conducting business.

    Maybe Louisiana should break off the from USA, Quebec from Canada and they can form a country. Our Cajuns were exiles from Acadia in Canada long ago.
     
  7. Montreal-Mark

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    It's a long and never ending stupid fight between Québec and the rest of canada. Business and gouverment keep us not liking each other because they can get cheap labour on both sides.

    Also, it's a sape goat for all our problems. In otherwors.. Oh bread is 3 dollars a loaf. It's english canada's fault. Or in english canada, the GST is the fault of Québec because the money is needed to keep the nation together.

    It's all bullshit.

    The solution is to get rid of the politiciens, lawyers, banks and big business.
    You know, I think a modern version of the french revolution might not be such a bad idea.
     
  8. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    The country would get rid of the french before they'd ever do that. Just saying. Also, a french revolution wouldn't work in today's time. Have you ever met Albertans or Northwest Territorians? Good luck with that.
     
  9. Montreal-Mark

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    I hate to say it.

    Alberta and Québec are more or less the same type of people. Have you seen how well the Reform Party and the Party Québécois get along.
     
  10. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    All I'm saying is that it would never happen. French Canadians only have as much weight as the government gives them, which isn't much. The thing is, French people should take into account the fact that they are a part of the country. By that I mean they should be grateful that they have a huge province all to themselves. Mexicans don't have a whole US state to themselves.

    Frankly the french are lucky they haven't had to integrate more than they have. They've gotten to maintain their culture, their language, their giant land, their heritage, etc. So what's the problem?


    As Robin Williams once put it, 'They act like the guy who moves out of the house then asks his parents for rent money'.
     
  11. Montreal-Mark

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    All I'm saying is CanadiEns or CanadiAns. We are all just manipuated tools.


    Both Ottawa and Québec are making money from the entire seperation issue.

    It has nothing to do with "rights" or "Culture" or "language."

    We've maintained our language and that is all.

    As for our culture. There is very little difference between Québec and the rest of Canada. Go visit the Gaspesie region of Québec. You will swear you're in Alberta.
     
  12. daisymae

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    You do realize that you are fighting to preserve a "culture" that came over here from France and stole the land they are sitting on, right? The English did the same, but the rest of Canada isn't trying to separate.

    Before going on about how it belongs to french speaking people, you should talk about the First Nations people living in the north of Quebec. Will they be refugees of your french utopia?

    http://www.indianamarketing.com/anglais/nations/nations.html

    If you want to keep your language and supposed "culture", teach it to your children. That's what everybody else does. You don't need your own country to do that in, Canada allows diversity.
     
  13. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    I vote we get rid of quebec altogether by renaming it south newfoundland
     
  14. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Or just put up a fence around it and see how long they last.
     
  15. Montreal-Mark

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    Actually that is propoganda.

    The French came to canada and made an alliance with the Hurons-Wendat and
    the Mi'maq indians against the Iraquois indiens. The alliance stood for 150 years before the first english settlers.

    Then when the english were taking over. They made an alliance with the Iraquois. Offering the land of the Hurons-Wendat in exchange for support. But instead of honering that deal at the end, they stole the land from the Iraquois.



    See this is just what I was getting at. (Don't start sounding like a goof)

    You're believing the same bullshit that "our gouvernemnt" does to keep us at each other's throats.

    Québec has the same more or less the same culture the rest of canada does. All that is different is our language.
     
  16. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Remember daisymae, its okay that they (the french) were killing the Iroquois and taking their lands and hunting grounds for their allies...

    It wasn't unfair or mean until the english did it too...
     
  17. Montreal-Mark

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    And the Goof never gets smarter.

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  18. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    Goofy would make a great avatar
     
  19. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I'd be willing to help build that fence. Don't get me wrong, I love Quebec, it's a fantastic chunk of land. I'm just sick of the fucking whining coming from the people who live there.
     
  20. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    You just have to love it when the trolls run out of bullshit and start offering nothing but insults.

    :)
     

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