sugarmaggie.. thank you.. why is it when you say it it makes sence and when I say it all hell breaks loose..my karma I suppose.. but really thank you.. you brought it across much better that I did.. thanks for the clean up..
Sweetie..I was born in the southern United States..and where I come from, if you talk to an elder that way you got your fucking teeth knocked down your throat.
In the hippy communes, folks walked around naked with their children around. Were you not part of that? I have not read all of your posts. Maybe, if we didn't hide it so much and talked about it openly as best we could, there wouldn't be so much rape and sex crimes. Maybe I am wrong. When I was molested by my baby sitter at the age of 7, I knew nothing about sex but I did know that it was wrong because I felt bad inside. She said not to tell my parents and I didn't until I was 20. I done with that thought. I don't know that we will ever agree on this but what I do know is there are alot more good people here than bad. We all have our own opinions and that's what makes it an ok place to be, so we can share our minds, love, life and hearts.
You're right..we all have our own opinions..nobody has to be right or wrong here. I just wish we could do it without bashing one's soul....it made me hurt to read some of that stuff.
Lucifer can look at what he whats and say what he wants but the way he says it is offencive and doesnt merit a responce all he wants to do is insult people that he can't get over on like he does with these young girls.. he's just waging his dick around saying nothing.... he offers nothing but hate and violence.. he is not a hippie.. or in touch with any light..he's a sad human being looking for acceptance in all the hurtful ways he can make himself look better..or feel better. I cannot reach him.. so I brush myself off and go on my way..
Quote: was a dancer for 7 yrs .. I danced at the Follies in the mission district in SF.. I danced at the Wiskey in Hollywood.. Exactly what I thought, you are projecting your own mistakes onto someone else. You've probably made worse decisions than Moon Flower's tasteful posting of a nude pic...you were face to face with real pervs and sexually teasing them. I think you need to put this event in perpective here. And I agree, age doesn't inherently demand respect...especially when the older person, Shameless, has a distorted view of sexuality, likely due to her past, and is not above name calling herself..,. and to sugar mag, good to know that the older people knock younger ones teeth out in the south... PS Shameless-you not watching your kids well enough is not a good reason to censor this site. and I see you never answered about the topics that a minor can READ about here, apparantly this simple nude pic shocks you more than beastialty. It doesn't seem like you have been here long, not long enough to attempt to change the place.
It was a figure of speach..so don't even try that shit with me. But yeah...respect was something I was raised on. Particularly to elders who have life experience. People who talk more than they listen are fools. Don't get it confused though..just because I'm saying you need to respect someone, doesn't necessarily mean you have to AGREE with them. You can get your point across without being so damn mean..you have to know that. When it starts getting ugly I've found the best thing to do is shut the fuck up and go about my business..because OBVIOUSLY nobody is gonna give either way. You know as well as I do that this has all been blown out of proportion. Do you really think ANY of us care about the photo THAT much?? It's all about arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. Why are you so hellbent on this anyway?? Hell..let's see what you got....post your nude photos too. I really could care less. Edited because I was under the assumption SeaMonster was female.
I lived in communes and there was nudity.. but not out on the streets.. you get arrested for that..when we branched out to the country some went naked and some partial.. yes the kids were around.. but it wasn't for public everyday view..it was on your own land where only certian eyes can see..we didn't march up and down haight st nekkid.. we did gather in protest naked to make a point and to get noticed.. it was for a reason.. not just to show it cuz you had it..and when I said that I saved my body for my husband well that's what marriage is or suppose to be all about.. and you take a vow.. or is marriage outdated nowadays.. or the sanction of marriage..
what I did was a JOB.. I got payed.. I wasn't flinging it around everywhere..I got to feeling sticky and so I stopped.. so I'm out of this now..
Respect isnt something you can just get, it has to be earned, and its not something you can switch on. Like religion, if I decide that I dont believe someone to be worthy of my respect, than I wont have respect for them. You can make someone be respectful and go through the motions of being respectful, but that doesnt consitute respect, it doesnt make somebody feel respect for another. Deep south US values dont apply to the whole world, and theyre not necessarily correct
quote: Deep south US values dont apply to the whole world, and theyre not necessarily correct You can say that a thousand more times if you'd like!
OMG I can't believe I'm still wasting my time on this. Ok fine..don't respect people you don't feel deserve it..will you be mean to them?? If you can read some of Shameless' posts(not just the ones in here either) and feel you can't find any respect for her at all..then you are just not worth my time. So..just because of her feelings on this stupid thread..what you're saying is you don't respect her?? Then I don't respect you. And i never said that our values apply to the whole world..or even that they were correct..can you respect those values though?? I hope you don't claim to be an open minded person if you can't. I'm well aware that our values don't apply to all, and hell..they may even be wrong. Thanks for the lesson nonetheless. Everything I'm saying could be complete bullshit..but same goes for you. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna be mean to you, I love everybody...including people who think I'm full of shit. But that's just me and how my karma thrives daily.
Quote: And i never said that our values apply to the whole world..or even that they were correct..can you respect those values though?? I don't believe in hurting other people, but I, for one, do not respect typical southern values. If the older person respects the younger person too, then a mutual respect can occur. When the older person is equally as insulting the the younger one, what is the point in a blind respect.
What we have here if a failure to,.....I not sure where the fxxk you are coming from now. I'm not saying this to be mean or in anger, but come on. You said that your grand daughter saw a tit or a nip. This was in your house, behind closed doors, not out in the street. Maybe you should have talked to them about it. YES. Then you say that you didn't march up and down the street, but then you say you gathered in protest naked. When you gather some place, it's not in a tent, It's outside, that's right,it was to make a point. I am glad you save yourself for your husband. Where does that tie in? I am having a hard time connecting the rings here. It seems that you are blowing in one end and it's coming out different at the other. Help me pleace understand. Does the word PEACE fit? Always!
Fine..don't respect them. I'm done with you and this thread..apparently you all are too fucking narrowminded to even understand what I'm saying. How frustrating this is....
quote: Fine..don't respect them. I'm done with you and this thread..apparently you all are too fucking narrowminded to even understand what I'm saying. How frustrating this is thanks for the ice cream.....I just don't really understand what you are saying...there is either respect or there isn't, and it should go both ways. I'm quite calm here. All I'm saying is that there should be no "dutiful respect" that is soley related to ones age or place in society....for instance, I'm not going to respect someone just because they are president, I'm not going to respect a father who is abusive...etc.
hey man, I never said I didnt have respect for her, I was using a hypothetical explanation to explain what I meant, sheesh! I dont know her well enough, and I never insulted her, I never called her names.