Should women be used in the frontlines of warfare? Direct combat?

As I said in Karen's thread,maybe when women start coming home in body-bags we will realize the full idiocy and futility of war and find a way to peace.Although this is no justification for the proposed introduction of females into the killing fields in itself.I just cannot tolerate violence.I guess though when pushed comes to shove I would fight for peace,and this is part of the problem.

 

Yes, actually I thought the same. They are already in there and it should not be any different.

 

Not in the sense a lot of people think.

 

Approx 152 women have already died and approx 958 have been wounded.

'futility of war' 'coming home in body-bags' 'killing fields' - jeez, who are you? Oliver Stone?

 

I meant what I said and stand by it.

 

I'm just saying they already have been...

 

Men come home in body bags, and it has not prevented men from signing up for war. To suggest it should be any different for women is mere sexism.

 

Women are and have been just as capable of being tortured, shot and killed as any man. I've too have never understood the nature of this controversy. Any attempt to argue against the notion of women serving in "boots on the ground", muzzle-to-muzzle, bayonet-to-bayonet, hand-to-hand combat will reveal a gender bias that is not based in reality. Women, Men AND children are killed in wars every day on this planet. If we're going to endorse this insane activity in the first place, we might as well be egalitarian about it. No one is going to convince me that a female, properly trained in combat and sufficiently gut-checked in the process of that training (meaning she receives exactly the same level of training and is subject to the exact level of performance) is somehow less capable than a man of killing, or being killed, by another human being.

Will there be rapes? Yes. People will rape each other. Soldiers have been raping their enemies and each other since the dawn of human civilization. Will there be harassment, descrimination and bullying? Everyone is potentially subject to harassment, discrimination, bullying AND RAPE, in the military (and in civilian life). The entire spectrum of human activity (good and bad) exists in the military. Why wouldn't it?

 

I voted no, because I agree with the majority of people saying it could be a distraction. Other soldiers may be overly protective of the female ones, which could mess everything up. Although, this thread reminds me of the movie G.I. Jane... Anyone seen it? It was quite the opposite in that movie.. then again, its a movie

Also, when it comes to one on one physical combat, the odds of a women being taken down by some huge guy trying to kill her is a lot more likely (i'm just generalizing here), and when/if they get captured... a lot more worse things can happen, such as rape, and them being exploited...

Then again, another half of me says yes... Why is it fair and 'right' for guys to die in combat, yet not girls?

Maybe they could have all guy squads and all girl squads? Its a possibility... If girls are just as equal as guys, like everyone says, their squad should be able to do just as well as the all guys.

 

They should be used covertly to be an effective weapon. Send them to the front to engage the enemy by having them lower their guard with the promise of sex and then watch as the enemy is lacerated to oblivion by their rapier caustic tongues.*

*absolutely kidding

 

I know, necrophilia for everyone right?

 

sexism, really?god you are such a liberal. women were never meant to fight in wars. yes it's happened periodically through history and it was wrong then. women are not meant to defend their homelands with combat. they generally aren't as big and strong physically, mentally that's a different story. but what i'm saying is that how would you like it if the us government issued a draft right after they let women fight on the frontlines and they picked your mother to fight? or they picked your sister or your daughter? you wouldn't like it and it would be a big difference than if they chose your son or your father. and you know it!

 

Listen, I don't like the way the military treats women already, they force abortions and a whole bunch of shit. Secondly, a lot of countries we fight in, have NO respect for women. Many Primitive men in third world countries treat them horribly. One of the reason Bin Laden got mad at America was putting "women on his holy land," I guess women troops. So, no.


I don't think women should be fighting, not because I don't think they can, but the horrors of war has never had to be womens responsibilty to bear. I Imagine that as long as wars have been fought, it was done only by the men. The women and children stay home and hold the fort.

 

Do you have a source for that?

 

Not online. My source is my cousin, who's in the US army reserves. She told me, she could be forced to have an abortion if, or when they need her. That's how the government does when you sign your body over to them.

 

Listen, I did my time in the Marines (active duty) and I have NEVER heard of that happening at all. Not once, not even a rumor that it could be done. We had females (in units that allowed females) sent home all the time from deployments because they got pregnant. Not one of them was forced to have abortions. I think you're cousin doesn't know what she is talking about.

 

Voted no, cause there are so many other military jobs they could do instead of combat. Also, even with all the training they go through, women are smaller, and not as strong as men. Another thing is, when men get captured by the enemy, yes they are tortured and possibly killed but the women get raped and also tortured and possibly killed. We're fighting in regions that have no tolerance and respect for women.

just my opinions/thoughts on the topic

 

Idk man.. It's not that I don't believe you, but when she explained it to me she said; "Too many women were getting pregnant on breaks as an excuse not to come back, so now they can MAKE you get an abortion."

So, she could've been lying, but idk why she would've!


Why, do you think the Armed Forces are more humane than that?

 

I don't think she was lying. I think she just got told some bogus information and believed it.


Do I think the Armed Forces are more humane than forcing women to get abortions? Yes.