"Since everything supposedly came from the big bang"

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  1. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Could have been a little bang,relatively speaking.











    sorry.
     
  2. caraflower

    caraflower Member

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    No need to be sorry - not likely that any of us will ever know exactly what size the "bang" was that started it all.... Peace :)
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I know a couple who banged out a visit from me.
     
  4. Blinded me with science

    Blinded me with science Guest

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    From my limited understanding it goes like this. There are two theories.

    We live in a "mult-verse" of 11 dimensions. A separate universe is in each of these 11 dimensions. We are immersed in these dimensions. They flow through us, are part of us. And of course ignorance. And the fact that these dimensions are made up of donut shaped strings that vibrate at different tones. They are 1 trillionth of a millimeter across. We cannot see them because of their different laws of physics. When two of the same dimensions collide a big bang is created.
    Hawkings states that the big bang is nothing more than a black hole of incredible gravity that blows up just like they do do to Hawkings radiation in our Universes black holes, after the big bang.
    Physicists have seen matter and anti-matter appear out of nowhere. What we call empty space is made up of energy that we cannot see. Pairs of matter/anti-matter are constantly forming and quickly annihilating themselves everywhere. It is the anti-matter that causes black holes to "evaporate" and explode. The positive matter part is given off as "Hawkings radiation". What a beautiful place we live in. Image!!

    Two notes of the chord that's our for scope. But to reach the chord is our lifes hope. And to name the chord is important to some so they give it a word and the word is......OM -The Moody Blues, In Search of the lost Chord
     
  5. andallthatstocome

    andallthatstocome not a squid

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    the fact that the universe is expanding implies that at some point in the past, it was considerably smaller. follow this reasoning back far enough, and you have all matter and energy coalescing in a single point. Any discussion of what set off the big bang is purely speculation.

    also, the whole 11-dimensions thing is called string theory and the dimensions do not refer to complete universes. rather, the first three dimensions are length, width, and depth. the fourth is duration. the fifth dimension is the set of all possible timelines with the same initial conditions. the other six are entirely mathematical constructs attempting to explain various types of symmetry seen on a quantum scale.

    actually, hawking's big insight into the big bang came long before he discovered black-hole radiation. he was the guy who first thought of the big bang as a black hole in reverse: actually, that's what his doctoral thesis was about.
     
  6. Manservant Hecubus

    Manservant Hecubus Master of Funk and Evil

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBkZPyfpdE&feature=player_embedded"]Symphony of Science - The Big Begining
     
  7. willedwill

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    That may be showing up that those other theories are just inventions for the misunderstanding of the substantial weight and micro-universe of the bodies, and the activities of Effects.

    Anyway, does anyone know What a Neutron Bomb was? Was that a hoax? It's not funny. But it was used as an explanation that nothing was destroyed, but people were dying everywhere; a Neutron Bomb would be dropped in the middle of New York, and we die in our bodies insensibly to Culture. A Neutron Bomb may be a solution to what goes on the Walls of the building (I think; we were wrong too); we have the anti-neutron Bomb one simply can turn ordinary water into heavy water by enabling a controlled release of energy:


    because God wants it that way; God exists for the facts of indeterminism.
     
  8. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Explosion of matter or breach of total singularity? The concept of size does not exist at total singularity, nor does the concept of any-THING.

    People keep trying to explain the universe in terms of matter which is secondary to energy. Energy is the propagation of balance in space.

    To understand the origins you must simplify, not complicate.
     
  9. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    the universal origin seeks to be alive -

    perhaps it is a replicating spark of intense light , but i've only
    seen one and since it made my eyes get teary i think of it as living
    light with an intention . just curious . i think science can play pretty adeptly with an understanding of matter and will soon discover some things about the vitality of light's existence . surely it's of some things of simplicity that have not been seen for not looking .
     
  10. in the woods

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    the big bang is a theory and a good one but space its self was here more then likely and to think theres life out there you know there is you have to be narrow minded to think theres not besides were only 110 years out of the horse and buggy days just think if we were a 1ooo out just think of the things we would have for space travel and other things for every day living but the way were treating our mother earth were not going to be around that much longer
     
  11. MP4103

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    Actually, before the big bang, there was no space or time. Or to put it more accurately, at the moment of the big bang, there was no space or time (since no one knows what happened before the big bang).
     
  12. etkearne

    etkearne Resident Pharmacologist

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    Maybe I can lend a hand in understanding the whole "what happened before the big bang" thing:

    Think of the universe as being a manifold (ie: a "shape" of any given number of dimensions) of four dimensions. All of these dimensions at one time were equal in quality (that is, they were all "space dimensions"). So there would be no such thing as saying that time even existed then, as it wasn't a part of the universe (which I am representing as this manifold).

    Due to quantum fluctuations, independent of TIME, "bubbles" can happen on this manifold which change it's topology: Perhaps it "tears" a hole in it, etc. BUT, it could also cause one of the 4 dimensions (which are all spatial) to switch orientation (which is detailed in the model of the Minskowski Spacetime Model) to what we call "time dimension." Thus, time began out of space.

    So there is no such thing as "Before" the Big Bang, as time didn't exist before the big bang. It was just a 4-manifold with no temporal associations. Time just happened as a "Bloop" and coincidentally, the universe was able to support systems that rely exclusively on time (Dynamical Systems). So, we have motion, etc.

    The equation that describes the Manifold before the "switch" would be:

    M= dx^2+ dy^2+ dz^2+ dt^2, where x,y,z, and a are all independent directions in spacetime. Given that they are arranged with all "plus signs" joining them indicates they are spatial.

    The equation after the Big Bang is now:

    M= dx^2+ dy^2+ dz^2 -dt^2, where the variables are defined as above.

    However, note that the "t" differential has a "minus sign" in front of it. So, this is how you indicate it is a time dimension.

    It is really hard to describe this without getting into some advanced Differential Geometry and Linear Algebra, so I'll leave it there. Hope it helps.
     
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