So... about that Mueller investigation

What you are having trouble with is the part where William Barr altered things to protect Trump.

 

Thanks for letting us know again Trump didnt do anything illegal

 

Because he was too stupid too or those around him did not follow his wishes.

Is attempted murder not a murder since it did not work? No, we have clear intent to commit a crime. It's a lesser charge to only attempt but it's illegal. "gee your honor I did not rig the car bomb right so he lived can I go free". I use that example since I have an uncle who did time for that. Planned to kill a guy he knew and could not. He also thought he was innocent since his friend was alive. He also did a lot of meth that made him delusional. Is the meth good in Australia?

 

I cant state that you didnt break any laws

 

Except attempted murder is illegal

According to Meagain colluding isnt

 

Keep burying your head in the sand.

 

Obstruction of justice is illegal and even Trump's lapdog Barr didnt clear him of that

 

Flag … I don't think that's sand …

 

But, you opened this, by mocking his supporters. As if they were a massive monobloc of thought, all of them exactly the same.

Also, trying to figure out ways to "shake their faith in Trump" sounds pretty ominous. Would it suit you to do the same with other kinds of faith?

The common points of agreement have not changed since the founding of the nation; the people. WE the people.

At the moment, neither side has a firm grip on this concept. And neither seems poised to change in that regard. The political class has become a self-serving country club. So until either side starts to speak for all of the people of the nation, not just selected groupings (with selective agendas), what can change for the better?

 

Hah, I hear the same said of Trump.

It's too easy to feel so righteous that your message/party is without fail and can do no wrong. This is why I gave up on picking sides.

 

The people lost their government decades ago as power from the " Several States" was absorbed by Washington. The 17'th Amendment to the US Constitution stripped power from the states who until then chose Senators by the state legislature. Generally state legislatures are much closer to the people so nationalizing the entire upper House shifted yet more power from the people of the "Several States ". Before the 17'th Amendment Senators were advocates for the people of their states and it's citizens interests rather than advocates of the huge bureaucracy in Washington. This is only one of the means used BTW.

The evidence of this shift in power comes into focus clearly every election as interest groups from right and left across the nation pour tens even hundreds of millions into senate races.

We were intended to have a citizen led government however it's been supplanted by two entrenched parties, career politicians who pretend to be mortal enemies yet each serves the duopoly that is Washington. Many of these same career politicians have been in office so long they can barely walk and in the past I've seen a few reelected even after taking a wheelchair because of advanced age. What holds them so long ? Power !
I could drop names but I won't because my wish is that everyone consider what this means for the average Joe.

Next take a look at the 14 counties which surround DC that are among the wealthiest and most prosperous in the nation all solely because they're populated with government employees , politicians, lobbyists, and lifetime bureaucrats .

 

Seems like calling them names and screaming at them is working just fine so far. I've seen it on the news, so I know it's working just fine.

Really though, pretending is just another kind of manipulation. And really, how long can you really stand to be around people you basically hate to the core because they elected the orange demon.

 

How would you suggest one finds a common point to agree on with a neo-Nazi Trump worshipper?

 

Hillary Clinton was obviously physically ill as she campaigned for President . Horrible public fits of coughing (hacking) .
She was unfit in a common way . Or obtusely it could've been a lingering relationship to her laughing like a witch at the
murder of Gadhafi . She may have been hysterically unfit for the responsibility of being a presidential murderer . Cover
that up . Bury your shit . Eventually , vote for peace ....

 

Naaa, I'm just cynical about both sides is all. To me it's weird that so many seem to want to insist I pick a side when doing so doesn't serve me at all. I voted for Obama, but I also voted for Trump. I admit though, I voted for Trump primarily to avoid the Clintons taking the white house again. I hope I'm dead before Chelsea gets her hooks on the top seat.

 

I'm with you there. Though, I haven't seen any since the 80s.

 

I agree but what can we do? This is a cult. Only one man's words mean anything and of course everyone in the world is against this man so you must listen to him even more. If you don't THEY will come and get you.

What can be done when people refuse to accept the principals of America or any evidence? For example Trump can even say he will take guns with no due process and they are OK with it. He can say he "likes people who are not captured".

The same people ok with this take tremendous exception to the perceived disrespect to solders when NFL players kneel and spend their days planning how to hide guns so when they are taken they still have them. I don't know when I see the military and guns now fine to shit on it's line crossed. It shows they truly have no values other than protecting him.

Like you can flat out say guys who were probably on a mission when caught suck. That's fine but the suggestion of a vet to kneel is not.