So... about that Mueller investigation

Discussion in 'Politicians' started by 6-eyed shaman, Mar 23, 2019.

  1. YouFreeMe

    YouFreeMe Visitor

    It's a pretty well documented phenomenon--most people don't do well with too many equivalent options. It's called "overchoice." Interesting stuff, since most people thing more options are always better.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Yeah I dunno. I just do not let it effect me. If I turn on the news it's just all fluff. I dunno if it makes me ignorant or a bad person or whatever but you know I've gone through my life so far just doing what's right by me, not the government or the law or anything I'm just not gonna idly sit around for somebody to else to make a claim on what I can and can't do or how I need to live and who I can live with and I'm totally better off for it and you know the least important thing in my day is what happened in the news. Channels and papers and online sites are all owned and stories written to and for an agenda and or a political pary so I dunno how folks can take any legitimacy from the news. You're being told something by someone who wants you to think and believe in something by a bias interpretation and representation...

    The only legit thing in news media are sports results. The weatherman is constantly wrong. Even the sports stories are made up to entice hype but only the scores are legit
     
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  3. lode

    lode Banned

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  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    If this report told you what you wanted to hear it would be all over.

    It says a lot about the matter that we have to subpoena. Ask any lawyer there is clearly information that they did not want in court so the jury's decision is not affected. If his lawyer competition is smart enough to ask for it's bad.

    The jury is the American people.
     
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  5. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    A lie told enough times becomes accepted as truth.

    Enjoy searching for your non-existent needle in this haystack.
     
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  6. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Spoken like a man who knows from experience. Do you ever think for even a second whether or not the stuff you post is true, or is your only concern whether or not you can get others to buy it?
     
  7. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Apparently the Mueller report is far more damning to Trump than first reported but there’s just not enough evidence to indict a sitting president.- but oh so close
     
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  8. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    In light of subsequent questions about the Barr summary of the still unreleased Mueller report, maybe time for some reflection on a hasty over-reaction by the pro-Trump spin doctors?
     
  9. Evaporation comes to mind. Only the extreme outliers are still hanging on. But at least it didn't lose coverage as fast as Jussie!
     
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  10. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    So... about that mueller investigation....
     
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  11. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    United States Attorney General William Barr’s synopsis of the Mueller Report could not possibly be further from the truth. Mueller laid out numerous examples in which the President obstructed justice.


    Mueller felt compelled to follow the current DOJ guidelines which prevents a prosecutor from indicting a sitting President otherwise Trump would be up on charges for obstructing Justice.

    The report couldn't possibly be more damning - it's incredible
     
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  12. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It's comments like this that show me there is no difference between libertarians and Republicans. You would think a guy who suggests guns be taken from people without due process (Trump) and a guy who continues the drug war would really upset your opinion that anyone can do and should anything they want when they want. All that is left is the idea that he upsets PC people which from your posts is clearly people who anger you.

    Yet like all the rest you are deep in his camp. I don't know it would seem you don't know the law. My attorney friend thinks the full report is much worse. Is your law degree not agreeing?
     
  13. Flagme15

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    Only by those that don't know the difference.
     
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  14. lode

    lode Banned

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    The report said there was destruction of evidence, there wasn't sufficient evidence for conspiracy because of the incompetence on team Trump.

    And said: “Congress may apply obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.”

    It handed the impeachment case right over to the House. No idea what Pelosi will do with it though... probably hire a PR firm to tell her whether she should.
     
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  15. Meliai

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    I feel like you Trumpers are living in an alternate universe sometimes :tearsofjoy:. This report made it clear he's guilty of obstruction of justice and too dumb and bumbling to actually carry it out successfully on top of it
     
  16. lode

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    I love:

    "Efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests."

    The entire Executive branch treats him like a loud kid. :D
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    The bottom line is that the current policy of the Justice Department is that the sitting President of the United States can commit any crime he (or she) wants and they will not issue an indictment against him (or her).
    In short, while in office, the President is above the law, unlike you or I. Trump could literally stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and the DOJ would not indict.
    Muellr's hands were tied because he was only a Special Investigator, not an Independent Investigator, a position that no longer exists. He has to obey the rules of the DOJ.

    In addition Trump's lawyers contend that Trump can't obscure justice...again he's above the law.
    Lack of evidence has nothing to do with Mueller's decision not to indict, he has provided us with tones of evidence of crimes committed by Trump. At least ten incidents of obstruction were outlined by Mueller. Only one is needed to convict.

    Since the DOJ wonuldn't allow Mueller to indict, he has recommended that Congress take over, as is their legal obligation.
    In addition, Trump may be indicted when he leaves office, and Mueller has handed off 14 other investigations concerning Trump.
    Only two of these investigations are publicly known. They are investigations into Michael Cohen and Gregory Craig.

    In short if Trump were a governor, mayor, congressman, business executive, or welfare recipient... he would be in handcuffs today.
     
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  18. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Or by those who benefit from a distorted or false truth and suits spreading that instead of the actual truth. Some folks repeating a lie know that they do so very well. It's a conscious effort.
     
  19. Flagme15

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    Which begs the question. Were they protecting him, or themselves?

    Or if he was a minority.
     
  20. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    See, we told you so. The mainstream media version turned out to be largely corroborated. Far from exoneration. I particularly like the meticulous documentation of Russian interference in the election. Makes you wonder if Trump really won fair and square.
     
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