So, tell me about yourselves

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by Dark Bowser, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. Dark Bowser

    Dark Bowser Member

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    You already know of him? Isn't he such a nice person? :)


    But I've actually seen websites more extreme than him. I read on some website that it really is the Christian duty to kill Homosexuals and it recites scripture supporting this. In comparison, Jack Chick is fairly moderate. As far as I know even he doesn't advocate killing homosexuals. Want me to try to find that one really extreme ant-gay site again?

    Why won't anyone answer my question about the rainbow sticker? I found that that symbol probably does not represent homosexuality. I found one of my shirts has the same symbol on it. :p
     
  2. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    The rainbow has been used as a symbol of the movement for LGBT rights for a long time. I've heard a variety of stories, but the connection to diversity seems most reasonable. There has even been a suggestion of a connection to the song "Over the Rainbow" from the Wizard of Oz. The sense that gay people long for a better place and the adoration of Judy seems to fit. At one time, it was more common for gay people to refer to one another in code as "friends of Dorothy."
     
  3. james q

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    that doesn't make u anything in my books, love, it just makes u fussy. and we all have our own standards. i used to think that a person's gender appearance was a reliable indicator to his/her sexuality: a really sissy boy would be gay and a really testosterone boy a he-man but i've been with a lot of different guys to know that this is not true. anecdote: i was in asia once watching a boxing exhibition. the guy who won it was the national junior champion and had demolished all in his wake. anyway, after his win i bought him a drink at the bar and as it turned out he had nowhere to stay so... i'll let u fill in the rest... once in the bedroom and naked that young fellow was on his back with his legs in the air screaming for it, a positon, had he not beaten me to the bed, i had entirely expected to be in. so there's no way of telling anything about a person's sexuality by their gender appearance. i'm sure we've all got strories to tell like that one. i can't help feeling from what u say that the fact you look at shirtless guys admiringly indicates that there's some homosexuality in you but there is in virtually everyone (otherwise straight men would not be attracted to men-only things like football games and drinking). the fact you are repulsed by penises and anuses may have more to do with how you were socialised and what kind of experiences you had as a child (especially of the toilet training and 'being naked when you're not supposed to be' genre) rather than be indicative of sexual preference. that's only a thought, i have no proof for this whatsoever. the being ashamed to be a boy thing, well, i don't know what that means.
     
  4. Dark Bowser

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    Indeed that is true. I have come to realize that as true. Well, there was one comedian, I think it was Jeff Foxworthy, who told his freinds that everyone's got a little homosexuality in 'em. Of course, his friend's like, No way! I am not gay! Then Jeff says you like looking at porn, right? The friend says, yeah. And then Foxworthy asks, well, do you like girls being penetrated by small, miniscule dicks? The friend was like, No! I like 'em big and huge.......oh.

    I thought that was a tad funny. As for being raised and nudity, etc. I have never liked sex or sexual things too well. Whenever my parents wanted me to take my shirt off for swimming, I'd always fight and complain. I HATED it, and still do. I don't take my shirt off in public to anyone. My parents have been fairly.......what's the word......not loose, but easy-going, I guess. They didn't go around naked or anything, nor did I, but they always wanted me to talk to them about it. I just always threw a fit whenever my parents wanted to talk to me about sex.

    I used to think it was nurture to determine sexual orientation. Bt you guys, and myself, are, I think, proving me wrong.
     
  5. james q

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    i actually believe in reincarnation and my idea is that it's neither nurture or nature entirely. as far as that goes it's a joint arrangement between the two that is entirely mutually exclusive: you can't have one withut the other. i also think this correspondence of nature and nurture mirrors a greater correspondence between spirit and matter. the nature and nurture of matter, in part, describes a person's state of homosexuality but it doesn't explain why they are honmosexual. imo the answer to this is to be found in the spiritual aspect of the gay person (and i don't mean their spirituality necessarily). the spirit chooses to be this thing or that thing according to its spiritual state at the time of choosing. in this sense it is a choice i guess bit it's not a choice that we make in this lifetime nor is it anything we are conscious of doing, therefore it's something that can't be unchosen. once you have decided to experience life as a homosexual it's done for that lifetime, in the same way that once you're born with brown eyes you can't undo it. christians who talk about it being a lifestyle choice misunderstand the nature of choice and the purpose of existense too. "the universe knew everything but had experienced nothing so the universe expanded" is an old saying. imo we are part of that expansion: we are knowledge experiencing itself subjectively on the material plane for the first time as 'people'. that's why it's hard.
     
  6. Dark Bowser

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    You're getting into some odd philisophical worlds. That may or may not be, but it's difficult to argue anything in that realm so I shall keep it down around here.


    When I say we're both proving me wrong, I mean I don't think I could change from being an asexual if I wanted to. If you told me I HAD to be attracted to guys or girls for whatever reason, I don't think I could do it. I can admire a person's good looks, yes, but I don't lust over them or think about them sexually, and even then, I'm not always checking people out.

    For example, sometimes when I'm around guys(be it friends or whatever), if a girl they find attractive walks by, they'll say to me, "Damn, wasn't she fine?" or like "What'd you think of that?" While I saw the person too, I just simply wasn't seeing her in the way they were. So whenever that happens, I just awkwardly say something like, "Errr....yeah, right." Just something to get past that.

    But anyhow, it's been fun. I think my next step in my research shall be looking at some research papers(if I can) and see what conclusions Psychologists have come up with.

    Well, I guess it's been fun but my mission is pretty much over. I don't think we'll ever meet again so..........BUTT-SECKS ORGY!!!! Then I'll be on my way. :D
     
  7. Jorma's Branches

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    Okay, for starters, I'm not treading on your turf here, but I just want to point out a few things.
    When people say "Damn, wasn't she fine?" they're being masculine heterosexist. It's a typical straight masculine guy thing to do. This is because it's that guy's mindset that he has to prove his status above the female.
    Females have long since liberated themselves from male oppression, and the males (most of them) aren't willing to take this, so they try and have as much dominating sex as possible.
    It's quite normal to react just as you did. I would do the exact same. Love and sex for that matter, aren't about treating the female (if in a heterosexual relationship) like a piece of meat that you're going to dominate to keep down. Love and sex are about a passion and a fire uniting between two or more people.
    I'm not completely convinced that you're asexual. First of all, how old are you? Like it or not, age and maturity do matter in terms of sexual maturity. Secondly, can you ever recall a time in your life when you have been aroused by anything or anyone, other than yourself? Can you associate feelings of longing and love with anyone in your life?
     
  8. Dark Bowser

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    Ah, so you're using the whole "late-budder" argument again. You know, I hate that. People have told me that for a great portion of my life. I've made bets with people, I've been told that I'll like then when I become thirteen, then it's maybe fifteen, then whatever age. But I've proven them all wrong. I've already told you my age, but it's 18. Sure, I'm still young, but most of the "late-bloomers" have already "bloomed." I believe 18 is the age hormones start to simmer down and the sex drive is not so out of control.


    While what you say is correct, it is almost getting annoying the animosity you show heterosexuals. While a great many of them are just as you described, but there are some sensitive heterosexual guys out there who respect women. And about being sexually aroused. Sure I have. Like I said, some of us asexuals to have a small sex drive. We just masturbate to get rid of the excess hormones. I find getting horny a nusiance though, but I haven't been getting horny much lately and like I said, it's getting harder to masturbate(thus proving my hypothesis). Whenever I do get aroused or masturbate, it is only about people in general. All of the asexuals seem to be the same as me, the ones who masturbate that is(some have some really odd ways of getting it off :p) but we're all the same in that we never think about ourselves when we masturbate or people we know. It's simply either unappealing to revolting to us. But as for being aroused by someone I see, sure I occasionally notice someone's good looks(but like I said, I'm not always looking), but like most asexuals, I don't get an erection over it. I really don't. And while I don't fall under this category, some asexuals even might have a slight attraction to someone, but what makes them asexual is the desire to not actually personally be involved with them. Now, you might say that's normal and this and that, but this is about everyone. If he ever finds he is aroused by someone and really wants to be with them, then yes, that's being heterosexual(or possibly homosexual).

    Another silly notion you should dismiss is that asexuals don't feel love. We can love just like anyone else. I personally love my family, I love animals, and in a certain way I love my friends. Not quite the same love but friendship is a form of love. Like I have also said before, some asexuals are in relationships, they are just simply not sexual. You could say it's something like companionship or, to put it accurately, just close friends like anyone can have.
     
  9. SageDreamer

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    There's love, but there's also falling in love. Any experiences with that?
     
  10. Dark Bowser

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    Falling in love? No. No, I don't believe so. The whole concept just simply doesn't appeal to me. Friendship, love(as in the way you can love pets and family) are things I enjoy and experience. Sexual love for another person is something that is foreign to me, and quite frankly, I don't hope to ever experience it.
     

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