So what now for the Republican right?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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    She also proved herself as a Bilderburg...
     
  2. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    When Obama started out in the Democratic primaries, very few expected him to finish in the top five. His name was almost completely unknown to ordinary voters.

    Once he won the party nomination, his chances were probably just a little better than 50-50 until McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate. Then it was nearly a sure thing.

    For the last ten years, in national opinion polls, she has been the most popular and admired woman in America. Nobody else has ever won that ten years in a row.

    I think she would rather not run, but party leaders will talk her into it.
     
  3. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    the description of her nazi agenda and her gestapo political tactics in my first post is sufficient


    I can't respect a criticism like this. Rebuffing an argument with a label is meaningless. It's like when people reject universal healthcare by labeling it "socialist"

    If what I'm saying isn't right, you need to site some reasons



    as senator, she was one of the top members of the senate by number of earmarks included in budget items. one of several forms of blatant corruption in the senate

    I credit her with being smart, but she's also vicious and evil

    I wouldn't describe her as pure evil though. I think her effort on universal healthcare was worthy, though politically mishandled
     
  4. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Obama was already known as a "rock star" political candidate well before then

    wait, what polls? who was being polled?

    hillary is very popular among feminists, and popular with many women in general and some leftists

    she is also one of the most despised political figures in america



    hillary doesn't want to be president, she just wants to do what is right for america. that's why she tried to get the michigan and florida primary votes to count for her, even though obama didn't even appear on the ballot
     
  5. sunfighter

    sunfighter Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Your comments are dripping with irrational hate.
     
  6. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I think my comments are dripping with rather rational hate. simply labeling what I say as "hate" or "irrational" doesn't make them so. you need to site some reasons if you want to make a valid argument

    simply saying "what you think is bad" or "what you think is wrong" in not so many words doesn't qualify as a rebuttal
     
  7. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Thank you, Rush Limbaugh. :rolleyes:
     
  8. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    I volunteered for obama and elizabeth warren, btw
     
  9. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    lol You are quite the shit-slinger...you can't find it because it didn't happen.

    and no, you get no brownie points for "volunteering for Obama"
     
  10. StpLSD25

    StpLSD25 Senior Member

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  11. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    OK, mr. You-are-quite-the-shit-slinger-you-can't-find-it-because-it-didn't-happen,

    this from CNN's website

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/30/mann.obama.clinton/



    is it I or thou who art the slinger of shit?

    I claim to have "volunteered for Obama" because, I in fact did volunteer for obama, as well as elizabeth warren. my point here is that I am not condemning hillary because of an anti-democrat agenda, nor am I against the candidacy of women.

    I would further add that I am entirely in favor of rights for gay people and women. I just don't think that the way do pursue that, for anyone's sake, is through waging war
     
  12. Balbus

    Balbus Senior Member

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    Karen
    But the point is that you don’t have to - it wasn’t so long ago that most white people thought black people were inferior, yes some still do, but you now have a black president.
    When racism was prevalent was that just that Americans saw things a little differently or was it racism?
    But as I’ve argued, to many left wingers ‘liberal’ is right wing and ‘conservative’ is just another variety of right wing, it usually refers to those right wingers that wish to ‘conserve’ the status quo, but there are radical right wingers that want to change the system, free marketeer’s, nationalists, libertarians etc.
    I mean if someone says they are liberal meaning they are not a racist or bigot, I’d say why do you have to be a liberal not to be a racist or bigot?
    That is why debate, honest debate is needed, as I’ve mentioned before there are those that sometimes come on the site claiming to be ‘neither of the left or right’ only to find on examination that their ideas are virtually exclusively right wing.
     
  13. rjhangover

    rjhangover Senior Member

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    Looks like a 92' election replay of Clinton vs. Shrub. Hilary defeats Jeb.
     
  14. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    I never heard him mentioned on mainstream TV news broadcasts before the Iowa caucus. He wasn't chairing any Senate committees, so they had no reason to interview him. People who knew him before that were only those who followed politics very closely.

    It's just the way that the political debate has evolved in this country. I don't think it should be this way. I'm with you on this one.

    We have some places that are a lot more culturally isolated than you might expect. Unfortunately, their votes count the same as all the others.
     
  15. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    They count as much as a pack of Ramen costs.

    It's fucked that our votes for American Idol count more than POTUS
     
  16. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I remember The President at the DNC Convention that nominated Sen. John Kerry. 'twas held in Boston Garden.


    Yes, Barrak had rockstarr qualities,he handled himself carefully .Sen. Edwards got theVP nod back then.
     
  17. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    I've heard many times about how great Obama's speech was at that convention, but I didn't see it. Few hardcore political junkies watch every single minute of their party's conventions, and surely even fewer remember the names of everyone who spoke, a month later. There are so many of them!

    For those outside the US following this thread, we have 100 senators, and only a small minority of them are well-known on a national level. Anybody who watches the news here regularly has long been familiar with Al Gore, John McCain, Ted Kennedy, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Robert Byrd, and Bob Dole, because they have had leadership roles in committees that address important issues, and have been interviewed too many times to count. Most of the others are just faces in the crowd, unless they have some other reason for being well-known, such as Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Dole (wife of Bob, and former Secretary of Transportation, and former head of the American Red Cross).

    Skeptics take note: I just said something positive about a Republican. :D

    I don't remember which convention year it was, but there was one speech that caused me to remember the name of a young man that I hadn't known before, for all the wrong reasons. The Governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton, made a long speech that people on the convention floor hated. Commentators said that he had probably just flushed a promising political career down the toilet! :rofl: Can we agree that their analysis was more than a little bit off?
     
  18. Rocky and Trish

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    GOP = Masterhaters
     
  19. LetLovinTakeHold

    LetLovinTakeHold Cuz it will if you let it

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    Dems = false saviors
     
  20. eggsprog

    eggsprog anti gang marriage HipForums Supporter

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    Broad stereotypes = always accurate
     

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