"socialism does everything to destroy…"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, May 19, 2005.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    No. I said INITIAL COERCION, not RETALIATORY COERCION (which is the job of the goverment).
     
  2. GraffitiSoul

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    thats what tax is, dont pay and risk jail time
     
  3. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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  4. Mui

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    I think ayn rand is a ignorant cultist whore, who can rot in hell. least we agree on some things...
     
  5. GraffitiSoul

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    governments have the right to charge their citizens tax...and do , if u dont like that dont move there
     
  6. Libertine

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    There's that GUN again. Initial coercion at its finest.

    Do it or go to prison, you free man!
     
  7. Libertine

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    We do agree on more things than we disagree on, I think.
     
  8. GraffitiSoul

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    Rand is just a hypocrite, claims govt has no place in social affiars, then says homosexuality is a disease, and their needs shouldnt be accomodated...
     
  9. GraffitiSoul

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    murder and go to prison, dont pay tax and go to prison i dont see how ones initial ones retalitory
     
  10. Libertine

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    That is very hypocritical, I agree.
     
  11. Mui

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    im just really intrigued as to what ideas libertarians have to stop coercion... just HOW will the government fight it...? do they have any plans or ideas about how to stop it, or do they simply say "we will stop coercion" and than offer no real plan or idea how to do it.
     
  12. GraffitiSoul

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    but jsut answer this 1 question, do u feel the govt allow its own citizens to go hungry?
     
  13. Libertine

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    Murder is INITIAL COERCION on the LIFE (one of man's rights).
    Prison is RETALIATORY COERCION on the murderer.

    Taxation is INITIAL COERCION on the individual (if it is not voluntary).
    That's the difference.

    So you equate not paying taxes to murder??? wow.
     
  14. GraffitiSoul

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    i would be liberatarian if it werent for my views on the poor
     
  15. Mui

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    ayn rand... i could go on and on about ayn rand, and I have... shes just a whore who used the collapse of the USSR and her place and time as a way to gain wealth, popularity,power... she stood as an important figure for spreading the same lies i try to fight and show truth to... besides her stance on homosexuality, her essence and popularity is only because Capitalist nations wanted her to stir up hatred against communists, and base the USSR and the rise of Stalin off the principles of Marxism and use them to discredit Marx... She wasnt even that good of a writer... ugly whore... cultist maniac.. she's like McCarthy, except a whore.
     
  16. GraffitiSoul

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    when did i say i equate them? i wanna see that
     
  17. Libertine

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    That is not the government's responsibility. Tell me what JOB do you have a RIGHT to? Which RESTAURANT do you have RIGHT to eat at?

    It is your own responsibility to eat, get yourself a job or grow your own food. Without PROPERTY TAX, BUILDING PERMITS, ETC.
     
  18. GraffitiSoul

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    look i gg, answer my question, please, well pick this up later...
     
  19. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Ok, nice opinion piece, but calling someone names doesn't prove your point.
     
  20. Mui

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    Word.
     

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