I can't stand it, I have to disagree wholeheartedly w/what you wrote. I think it's quite sinister to kill innocent people even if it's for your country. You think only terrorists are getting killed in this war? I don't admire anyone who kills people for a college education. Sometimes I think you just like to be contrary, to set yourself apart from the rest of us.
Dude, I like you, but not love. Maybe if you took me out a few times I'd think differently, but I'm not easy.
Well then I found the hypocrit! I was simply confusing myself for a dog, that's al, hehehe. So your either going to have to shoot me or luv me, it's that easy. *grin*
So you're saying that represents every soldier in the US military? Please! There are two sides to every coin, obviously. Snap out of that one-track mindset that blinds you. And Metro, You should realize that many of the people who joined the military joined at a time when it wasn't expected that war would be imminent. To be against the soldiers is absolutely senseless when shit goes so much higher than that. There is so much shit that people don't know, and if they did, things would be different. Do you think our soldiers are happy to be at war? Maybe some of them are, but I am pretty sure most of them want nothing more than to come back home to their families - that is the ones who haven't died and left their families behind already. You seem to have this notion that everyone who joins the military - be it the Army or Air Force, or whatever - engages in combat and kills people, and that's not true. I know FEW people - even staunch critics of the war, such as myself - who don't support the troops. Maybe they don't support exactly what some of them are doing, but the fact is that some of them have an intention which goes beyond themselves - whether they have been mislead or not (which isn't their fault). If it wasn't for the soldiers in WW II, you might not even be here today, or might be speaking German and living under Nazi rule. Say what you will, but that's the truth. Try being a little thankful for what you have and not take everything in life for granted. It's the government you should be berating, not the soldiers. That is MY opinion, and I am not going against the grain intentionally because I am not even going against the grain at all. Most of the people - even at this website - support the troops even though they despise the government and its imperialistic actions.
Well, duh, it doesn't represent every soldier, but it disproves the theory that soldiers fight because they believe in their government and want to fight for their country and all that shit. Most do it because they want to, so why support people who want to go to war? Oh please, the Nazis wouldn't have invaded the US because we had no real basic involvement until the last minute. I'm sick of people saying that. "Oh if we didn't have war we would have been under nazi rule"-- ah, blow me. So because we don't support the troops we're being ungrateful and taking things for granted? Gimme a break! Your post is so utterly ridiculous it's rather hilarious.
I am to lazy to read what everyone replied, plus I like seeing myself type (hearing myself speak), so let me give you my two cents. I don't necessarily "support" the soldiers, but I don't not support them. A lot of people come from poor homes and they want to try to make something of themselves. The military is a simple solution for many. Especially those who do not have enough money or the grades to get into college, and those who do not want to work getting paid near minimum wage. Also, often-- they want a way out of the place they live. For many various reasons in which I will not go into. Anyway, my point is, they are not stupid for joining. I am sure many did not go in with the expectation of war. I am sure there are a few who WANT to go to war, but most don't. I can tell you that....guaranteed. The military can be a very tempting thing to one with not many options. You get a LOT of benefits (I don't want to go into naming them all). I know because my father was in the military. But the drawback is that you are always faced with the possibility of war (my dad never had to go). Many of these young men and women who join are naive and think it can't happen to them. So what? How many of us on here are naive? Honestly.
yeah, I know why a lot of people join, I know about 9 people myself who are involved in the military. They(the military) can make it attractive...but the possibility of having to kill complete strangers for a reason you may not support is a good reason not to join. My dad was in the Nat'l Guard, I have a cousin over in Iraq, my other cousin's husband is in Germany...but I don't have the huge respect that so many people do for these people. I KNOW I'm not explaining myself properly, it's kinda hard to describe...like I don't get goosebumps or feel like saluting or get teary over this, you know? There are heros out there that would get my respect and admiration, but JUST because you are a soldier doesn't guarantee it. I wish I could make myself a little clearer, but I don't know how. There are other options for people who want a college education, I promise. I don't like the idea of so much tax $ going into the military. Also, some people don't belong in college. If they can't get decent grades, then perhaps they aren't cut out for it. Unless they can get the $ to go, they should consider not going. I know I sound harsh, but really, people need to take responsibility for their actions. I know there are exceptions too. I respect your and anyone elses opinion on the matter or any matter. I enjoy debate.
Yes, there are many other options but the military is one of the most simple to a lot of people. And the reason why people join knowing they might have to kill someone? Because there is a "might" in there. They are naive. They don't think they will be the ones that actually have to do it.
yep, my sister and her fiance were making preps to get into the Marines a couple yrs. ago, thank God they chose otherwise. My sister was in boot camp, but dropped out and he wasn't accepted. They were lucky for sure. I do feel bad for the ones who weren't anticipating a war. The best we can do for them is not elect freaks like Bush who go to war at the drop of a hat.
I hope this is at least a bit on-topic, but patriotism sucks and wanting to die for your country or religion too.
it's perfectly on topic and I agree. We are all humans. Thanks for the replies everyone gotta go, continue debating if ya wish
