something about weed i found out that freaks me out

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Bababooey, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. mellow

    mellow Eased

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    The only relation between weed and aggressivness later in life that I can see, is caused by exposure to low amounts of carbon monoxide when you smoke (this can cause irritability).
    But then you get more exposure to CO sitting in traffic, then you do smoking a bowl every once in a while
     
  2. SirTokesAlot

    SirTokesAlot Lives

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    Oh, it changes the way you think... run for the hills...
     
  3. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    no, no, no!

    a national study.. with no reason to be biased... reported:

    80 percent of people admitted to wards with schizophrenia have no KNOWN family history of illness.

    theres FOUR times greater chance that someone (with such a predisposition to schizophrenia that they end up being admitted for it) will have no way of knowing if they are predisposed.



    as for brain development, it is true that heavy use is theoretically able to affect the way the brain grows into adulthood. but it is not amatter of being reasonable or aggro. cannabis exercises neurons, and the whole brain, differently than when youre sober. all drugs do, but cannabis (and psychedelics moreso but you dont take psychs anywhere near the amount you get stoned, for the large majority of us) effects the way connective structures operate, and thus the effects of heavy smoking all day and before sleeping, could have different capacities for different structures of the brain. its possible. wouldnt amount to too much for most, but if the smoking is intense, it can definately make a difference, one that mightnt stop one from living, but could lower potential
     
  4. the music isnt' over

    the music isnt' over Member

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    BAHAHAHAHA thats so fucking dumb, of course you dont get MORE aggressive, its mary jane man, the most wrongly illegal drug ever.
     
  5. StonerBill

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    some people are agressive when they run out of weed

    usually its the comedown or lack of a drug which people associate with long term affects, not the primary effects of the drug itself...
     
  6. YellowBellyHippy

    YellowBellyHippy Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Well at least Im 28 so I have nothing to worry about :H
     
  7. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Uhhmmm.... wtf are you talking about bill? Feel like blabbing about random scientific studies? We weren't talking about schizophrenia and admission to hospitals, we were talking about mj use and its link to schizophrenia. Especially one specific study published recently that said "teens whose genes put them at risk are more likely to develop schizophrenia from heavy marijuana use"
     
  8. ConcealedCulture

    ConcealedCulture Senior Member

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    This thread made my IQ drop. And the OP has no business smoking herb. Some people just shouldnt smoke.
     
  9. StonerBill

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    man, there is no test to see if your genes put you at risk, so therefor, there is no way of knowing if your genes put you at risk, since the only way you COULD tell if you had it in your genes would be from family histroy.

    not all people who have the genes for schizophrenia end up with schizophrenia, thats why the stat is more important because it concentrates on those who have a strong enough susceptability to schizophrenia that they end up having episodes and stuff.

    and even THEN, 80 percent of them have no record of it in their family.

    so tell me this, what is the use of knowing that mj puts you at risk only if you have susceptable genes, if you cant determine whether you have susceptable genes?

    its much less random a study than any others ive seen in relation to this topic
     
  10. Bababooey

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    besides stoner bill and a couple of others, the rest of you are fucking morons. i'm just mentioning something i found out through a dude whos researched everything about weed. i can tell herb's made a lot of you fucking stupid since all you picked up from my post was that it makes you more aggressive..... did you miss where i said that the weed effects the part of your brain that controls your reasonability? when that part of your brain aint as strong, the other part which controls your aggression is the stronger of the two, so therefor, you have changed, because your brain has changed, but you have no idea it even happened.
     
  11. StonerBill

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    there arent two sides, reasonable and agressive, though. agression is one result of various parts of the brain interacting. reason is also the result of various parts of the brain interacting. theyre not isolated to individual sections. however, it could be said that 'reason' is held in the neo cortex, and agression in the inner, more primitive parts of the brain.

    but its still too basic to make that correlation.

    you cant simplify most neurology, it just doesnt work. you lose the point, and dont even communicate it right. for your own sake, dont look at the brain so simply. canabis effects the whole brain, its about connections, not strengths of actual sections of brain responsible for individual emotions/mind functions
     
  12. PurpleGel

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    no, you're the moron; that's not how the brain works.
     
  13. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    my brother and my dad smoked when since they were like 8, and my brother is 27 and my dad is almost 50 and they are really nice, well, not totally agressive i should say :)
     
  14. WhisperingWoods

    WhisperingWoods too far gone

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    So you're saying that..

    ->using Freud's idea of the id, the ego, and superego<-, toking weed while the brain is still developing *permanently fucks up your "ego"(which is your reasonability). The id, which is your primitive urges and all that good stuff, has more control?

    I gotta call bullshit.
     
  15. Tainted

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    Do you have any sources for this? There's so much god damn misinformation spread on this board...
     
  16. StonerBill

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    its the price we pay for free flowing data over teh world
     
  17. 40oz and chronic

    40oz and chronic 'Nuff Said

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    "FACT: There is no convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in either teenagers or adults. Some marijuana users experience psychological distress following marijuana ingestion, which may include feelings of panic, anxiety, and paranoia. Such experiences can be frightening, but the effects are temporary. With very large doses, marijuana can cause temporary toxic psychosis. This occurs rarely, and almost always when marijuana is eaten rather than smoked. Marijuana does not cause profound changes in people's behavior."

    SOURCE: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/
     
  18. SirTokesAlot

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    Not this thread again...
     
  19. prismatism

    prismatism loves you

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    whatever it does or doesn't do, you shouldn't be freaked out about smoking. because then you'll get paranoid, and i know that will drive you temporarily crazy from experience.
     
  20. Tainted

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    Stonerbill: If your statement was directed to me, there are plenty other forums that don't have so much misinformation... All you need is an active mod enforcing more rules, like don't post misinformation. If it's not a commonly known fact, post a source. If it's something a friend told you, make sure it's clear that you don't have a source and it may be wrong.

    I'm having trouble finding a source for this article, but the only thing I really remember reading about a link between schizophrenia/mental issues (Other than the chance of pot bringing out latent problems) and pot was a study from like maybe 3 months ago at the latest. The leading brain scientist in America found that smoking alot of pot when your like 12-14 can cause damage to the brain SIMILAR to schizophrenic damage. I'm not sure what it means, but I'm pretty positive it doesn't mean your going to go crazy.
     

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