Speed of Light...BROKEN! Holy Hole in Relativity, Batman!

it's called a breakthrough cause it's something that was recently observed and has never been observed until now

surely there will be more tests, but to say 'that's impossible' is the same as saying the earth is in the middle of the universe - and if you disagree you're going to hell because god said so.

don't get it twisted

 

That's awesome. I use the same analogy to explain this for years now..

I say it easier for dumb people though.. I say "when you're 5, one year is 1/5 of your life. when you're 50, one year is 1/50 of your life

 

You are not talking scientifically. The speed of light is 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum. Period. It is not relative, it does not vary.

 

I always like to think starting from the Sun, on a star ship.. leaving the sun to Earth.. What would you do in those 8minutes?. Is there really enough time to give Deanna Troi a quicky..

 

'the speed of light' isnt even constant

 

You're going to have to say why you say that, because you are wrong. In a vacuum, it is constant. Light and other massless particles can go slower, but only when not in a vacuum.

 

'in a vacuum' but not in all reality....so how constant is the 'constant' speed of light when observed in all aspects?


NOT constant

 

No one has EVER said it was constant in anything other than a vacuum. That is what we are talking about, and, in particular, whether anything can ever go faster. It is the ultimate speed limit, unless this recent finding is proven correct.

 

you keep touting that the speed of light is constant, it isn't. and something DID go faster than the speed of light?

y u no advance?

don't get left in the dust, caveman - times are changin!

 

Ahhh, yes, but what is light? You know that constant isnt accurate, thats just as accurate as we have been able to measure it. Light behaves like a particle and a wave.

What is that constant really?, the speed of light. Or the limit to which the speed of something tends to as its mass approaches zero. What if light has a so far undetectable amount of mass and that limit is really something more like 900 million m/s for something with zero mass, or infinity. If neutrinos can travel faster than photons it suggests they have less mass

Is there any thing in the universe that exists that has zero mass, zero energy

What is dark matter, dark energy? maybe just the other side of that limit.

Why cant we account for all the mass in the universe, why dont the figures ad up? We dont know enough yet to be sure of anything.

Newtons equatons for gravity, just like Einsteins equations work for most things until you approach a limit tending to 0 or infinity.

That C is still an approximation, it doesnt really represent the speed of light, but the limit of the speed of which anything can travel as its mass approaches 0

Is there anything out there that has less mass than photons or neutrinos?

 

God.. lol. A few the church attendances are dwindling, i read that in the paper..

 

The speed of light has been measured in many, many different ways in the last hundred years or so. It has always been observed to be constant. This recent experiment has come up with a different result. It has not been confirmed by any other team so far. It is my opinion, my hunch, that no one will be able to reproduce the results and we will go back to saying that it is constant, the ultimate speed limit.

 

Let me correct a few things here. First, it doesn't really matter how much mass a photon has, because the speed has been measured many, many times. The result isn't theoretical, it has been measured.

Secondly, c is not an approximation. It is exactly 299,792,458 metres per second. The number has not been rounded off.

For the record, photons have zero mass and neutrinos have a tiny, tiny amount of it.

 

You are talking like a physicist, not a mathematician.

There is a margin of error in the speed of light, 4e-9

And what is a metre, what is a second. The accepted length of a metre is taken from the speed of light itself, which has a margin of error, thus a metre has a margin of error.

None of these things are absolute.

You said it yourself, its measured, not theoretical. If we were able to work it out theoretically, we'd also be able to account for all the mass in the universe.

Do photons have mass? Are we completely sure, they act like waves but sometimes they act like particles. What actually is a photon at rest? Do Neurtrinos have mass, we cant really pin that down or by how much. What is a neutrino when its speed = 0?

There's still a lot of the pieces of the puzzle missing, and some of those answers may lie in between 299,792,457.999999998 m/s and 299,792,458.000000002 m/s

 

I am sure this will create a better flash light. A flash light that will be added to cell phones. So people can buy cell phones with a radio and a 5 millions MP3 player and 5 million megapixel camera and GPS and Internet

AND a built in 5 million faster than the speed of light flash light.

 

My point is that advancement of knowledge is not only important when it's practical. If everyone thought like that, then we wouldn't've ever started experimenting with computers, or chemistry for that matter.

 

It is to make more junk.

We lived for thousands of years without computers or chemistry.

Yes people died then but they die today. But in the past people died from infections but today they die from cancers, over weight, stress, crystal meth, etc.

 

it's fucking simple. if you turn a light on in the corner of a room, and then run faster than the speed of light to the other corner of the room, you can watch yourself flipping on the light, because the photons have not reached where you are. cuz you got there first.