what are the negative implications of sport, anyways? i've explained the benefits... tennis elbow? :mickey:
i'm not on about physical things. i could subjectively claim those who don't play sports are fat and unfit, see. this is purely case by case.
i'm not generalizing. i'm saying sports build tacit knowledge. remember, i never mentioned anything about introverted or extroverted people these things have nothing to do with what i'm talking about. i'm talking apples and whoever else is talking oranges it seems. an introvert can be self assured, have determination, confidence. an introvert is a personality type, not a personality trait. i want to know what is so dreadful about sports!? i can't believe i have to ask this question, only on a damn hippie website, huh? :mickey:
Well, I can't say, I enjoy some sports, but from what I've read the distaste seems to resemble the distaste for television. It's disliked because of the medium, not the actual content. It seems as though some don't like sports simply because they're sports.
I enjoyed sports as a young boy when it was spontaneous pick-up fun games with lots of rough and tumble. Along came adults and organized, regulated and scheduled the games and I lost interest. Hiking, swimming, climbing are all fun, well they were more fun before age and arthritis took some toll. For me the same kind of sense of accomplishment that some get from sports I get from other activities. Seeing a completed section of a rock wall feels pretty good. Cleaning out a garden spot and turning soil feels pretty good. Building something for my house or farm feels good. It's all physical and mental activity at a pace that suits me. Why should I feel a need for sports. When I worked at a mental hospital there were frequent fights, good old knock-down drag-out brawls with some of the meth freaks that got brought in. In a perverse sort of way I enjoyed that competition of that because it was self preservation. Maybe that was my sports fix, I dunno. I just don't give a rats-ass for competitive sports. I like hiking jungle trails, figuring out which snakes are poisonous, what waters might be safe to swim. I like climbing, achieving the summit and savoring the view. Instead I should be happy to play some kinda ballgame? Nah, not for me. Am I quiet and shy? Maybe...is that bad? Have I not accomplished enough in life because I don't play sports games. Depends on who is keeping score for my life...since I'm that score keeper I've declared myself the winner. Them that don't like my call can take their balls and go home.
well, i dunno. certainly an interesting conversation. thank you for indulging me once again, lunar :love:
Just an added thought to my above post. I notice some mention of kids being denied the benefits of playing sports. I'll admit that with my first three sons I discouraged them from playing organized sports though they had lots of fun with pickup games of different kinds. My second two boys played some sports in high school but I refused to let them play football because the coach was a flaming-ass wingnut type whose values spilled over onto everything he touched. My two youngest I adopted from their home along the banks of the Amazon River. Soccer was part of their religion and I enjoyed watching the joy they had at playing. My youngest at 5' 2" and 112 lbs is a wrestler in high school who made it to state two years. He was ranked number 6 in the state. I flat love to watch the boy wrestle because it's fun to watch the quick, strong little guy pin some kid in seconds. I also like watching him pick up his opponent at the finish and giving him a hug. He won as well as he lost though he lost few. Sports are where its at for some folks, others, like myself, have other ways of challenging body and mind for fun.
No, the presumption is that I was addressing your personal situation. You asked for an explanation for the "everyone should participate in sports" train of thought. I replied that I think all children should participate in sports because the physical and developmental benefits are obvious to anybody that has ever taught a gym class. As for making a child do something they don't want to being a disservice - well, we don't have to argue about parenting philosophies.
Well, I think all children should be required to take piano lessons because I really got a lot out of them and most people agree that it helps with brain function. In fact, I think that everything that I've ever done that I feel has helped me in life, should be forced on every other single person in the world. Oh wait, that makes no f-ing sense, just like your argument. And you are the one that brought parenting into it.
Sitka said "I replied that I think all children should participate in sports because the physical and developmental benefits are obvious to anybody that has ever taught a gym class." Thats a kind of a one size fits all sort of arguement. Sports may have been great for you but you can't generalize just from your own experience. While I agree that sports are great for some kids I know its not great for all kids. Should all kids get coordinated physical/mental activeties, probably so but it could be dance, swimming, hiking or any number of other things. I always cringe at one size fits all solutions.
Very nice straw man. I'm not saying sports education needs to be required for everyone. I'm saying you would be doing a disservice to your (hypothetical) kid by not placing them in sporting activities when they are young. The same way you are doing a disservice by not giving them musical, language, or reading skills.
Again, where did I say I would refuse to put my child in sports if they wanted too? Nowhere! If, however, like me they had no interest in team sports I would not force them in to it. I'm really not sure how many times I can repeat this same thing before you actually understand. Just like my brothers were not forced to take music lessons because they didn't enjoy them... they enjoyed other activities. I am 100% ok with children being individuals with individual desires and skills...
But the whole thing about children is that they do not know their own best interest. Would you let them make their own decisions about whether they eat vegetables? Whether they practice reading? Whether they get any exercise at all (there are kids in my class that talk to me about never getting any exercise outside of gym)?
So then, is your position that children should be forced to try sports? I'm just trying to follow along, and I'm not sure what you are arguing.