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just joking.

 

God, you're cool. I appreciate your original post. I wish people would pay attention to their surroundings. I like Bush, but I understand that not everyone does, and that is fine. But what I don't understand is, what makes that idiotic flip-flopping Kerry so much better? Just because he claims to be the "anti-war candidate"?? Yet when you look at the records, he voted FOR the war that is now a diversion? It looks like he should be taking the blame upon himself then. Not once have I ever heard him apologize for helping send our troops to this war that was such a "mistake." According to Kerry, it was the wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time... so why didn't he see this when he was voting for it?? And once again, it's funny that when someone actually makes a good point, all the liberals jump in and say their usual ignorant things because they are mad someone is actually trying to get the TRUTH out there. Your friend was right... nothing but a bunch of idiots here. But at least there are the few of us who understand the big picture.

 

The idiot here is you.

And I don't need anything more than your own post to make my point. Thanks

I have no patience for someone who refuses to accept that no one's opinion but their own is valid. Grow up. You are living in the real world, and there are more people than just you in it.

 

I have no patience for someone who refuses to accept that no one's opinion but their own is valid. Grow up. You are living in the real world, and there are more people than just you in it.

So does this mean that you would accept a pro-Bush's opinion as valid?

I know I am living in the real world... and there ARE others in it, INCLUDING Iraqis who now have freedom thanks to our soldiers. You, on the other hand, are living in your own little world with a whole bunch of liberals, and your ozone layer must be pretty thick and foggy, because you're not seeing reality.

 

Also, Sera Michele, allow me to underline all the facts in my original post... not opinions.

God, you're cool. I appreciate your original post. I wish people would pay attention to their surroundings. I like Bush, but I understand that not everyone does, and that is fine. But what I don't understand is, what makes that idiotic flip-flopping Kerry so much better? Just because he claims to be the "anti-war candidate"?? Yet when you look at the records, he voted FOR the war that is now a diversion? It looks like he should be taking the blame upon himself then. Not once have I ever heard him apologize for helping send our troops to this war that was such a "mistake." According to Kerry, it was the wrong war, at the wrong place, at the wrong time... so why didn't he see this when he was voting for it?? And once again, it's funny that when someone actually makes a good point, all the liberals jump in and say their usual ignorant things because they are mad someone is actually trying to get the TRUTH out there. Your friend was right... nothing but a bunch of idiots here. But at least there are the few of us who understand the big picture.

Au Revoir

 

Anyone who supports Bush is either uninformed (many people fall into this category) or a complete selfish, greedy asshole. It's that simple. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're uninformed, well, judging from your posts that is most certainly the case. Although I wouldn't be too proud of that.

Iraqis are NOT free. We didn't liberate them, we are occupying them. Kerry will get us out. Vote for Kerry Moonjava. Do it.

 

Hmm and you wanna be a journalist? think about it you need to put your feelings aside and your beliefs to be a journalist, those things you pointed out ARE NOT FACTS ..you need to read what you are stating before you state it, if you are going to be a true journalist no matter what you agree with or disagree with you haveta put your opinions aside and write ONLY the facts

 

My God, are there a lot of very judgemental and angry people on this board. Those of you who are, just admit it and stop acting like you don't care.

 

This is just what I am talking about. YES I would accept a person's pro-bush opinion as valid and I would not call them an idiot for their opinion.

You are just here to antagonize liberals becuase this is the hip forums, and obviously there are going to be more liberal views than conservative here.

Since you are so sure that you are living in the real world you need to realize that in the real world not everyone agrees with eachother, and not all people think the same. Just because a person doesn't think the same as you doesn't mean that they should be insulted. But that is ALL you are here to do. Insult people that think differently than you.

It shows poor character.

 

LOL. You were right G man, look at all the anger posted here by these people that claim peace is the way. I see it oh so often here. But don't tell them that. LOL, they get angry when you tell them the truth. I mean, look at the replies to Moon's posts here. She pointed out real facts and she is getting attacked for it. Your idea about all these people conforming to non confomity is right on the mark. I seriously believe that no matter who we vote for the world will definatly change..for the worse. None of the people that post here are willing to do anything other than talk about things. At least, that is all I have seen here. I see no one fighting to start a revolution. I see no one here willing to lay their life on the line to make a difference. No, all I see are a bunch of hypocrits saying "Love everyone except Bush, Hate Bush...oh and peace man!" Yeah, right on hippies, way to spread the love.

Oh and to you Lick. You have claimed to be a person that deals with these "evil" people in our government. Yet, you have not come out and proclaimed who you are. Or what you believe. Or for that matter what you do other than rant on here. Until you do, Shut up!

 

Moons "facts" are just spins of the real facts. And I have lost patience with her immature attitude. I don't like to be called an idiot because of my political standing any more than any conservative does for theirs.

Coming over to a liberal forum just to insult political beliefs that are not your own is far from mature.

And Bandit, all your posts are usually bubbling with anger as well.

 

No anger, just honesty. And while you are trying to come up with a reply. Go ahead and show me that Kerry didn't vote for the war. Go one for one with her facts and show me that they are "just spins of the real facts".

 

Well since one of her underlined facts was a question (a question is not a fact) and the other one was that we are idiots, the one actual fact is easy to address.

Kerry voted to give the president authority to go to war. But he did that thinking what the president told him was true. When the fact's change, a person needs to change with them.

And my posts aren't angry either. They are honest as well.

Moonjava shows nothing but an immature attitude with her posts, and any literate person can see that. If she was against your position you would be all over her in a second for her posts. But since she is pro-bush it doesnt matter to you how she comes across, and you hound anyone who points out her immaturity.

 

First, Kerry does not claim to be the "anti-war" candidate. Second... The resolution you refer to was NOT a resolution to go to war; it was a resolution to use force if necessary.Kerry stated this specifically, before he cast his vote:
"Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable."

Kerry also stated this:

"In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out." — John Kerry, Senate Floor, October 9, 2002.

I think you're getting your information only from the Bush camps spin, instead of researching the other side to find out what the truth is.

As Dick Cheney recommended, use www.factcheck.org to get a clearer perspective of what's going on between both sides...

 

Guess you forgot where he said "Knowing what I know now, I would still have voted for the war". As far as one of her facts being a question, I think that was a mistake by her part, because clearly, the fact and question were divided by a few dots like these...The one agreeign with G mans friends assumption that you are all idiots was a joke.

You mean like you are doing, or anyone else for that matter?

 

"Yes, I would have voted for the authority [to go to war]. I believe it's the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has.

"And my question to President Bush is, Why did he rush to war without a plan to win the peace? Why did he rush to war on faulty intelligence and not do the hard work necessary to give America the truth? Why did he mislead America about how he would go to war? Why has he not brought other countries to the table in order to support American troops in the way that we deserve and relieve a pressure from the American people?"
— John Kerry, August 9, 2004

now compare his position before the war, and after the war? flip-flopping, or not?

 

Because her posts are obnoxious and just ooze immaturity. I was simply pointing that out since she found it necessary to call us all idiots.

 

Ok i will be the first to admit i have been angry and made some angry posts, and sometimes I laugh because some of the replies are just ludacris,..I am voting for John Kerry, that is my right to do so..I also, have noticed not just people voting for John Kerry lashing out, but also for those voting for Bush..so let's be fair here..stop blaming one side when it's both sides..also a good debate is someone that puts their beliefs, emotions, and facts to the test..I have seen some pretty good debaters here from BOTH sides..but I also have seen alot of non-truths, half-truths and exaggeration. I often wonder after the Presidential election, what will we debate over..anyone have any idea? Because I rather enjoy the debates we all have on here..even the angry ones

 

I think I know who you might vote for... but if you know that a majority of the people are voting either Bush or Kerry, who would you pick? Does a vote for Nader really count? And how do you go about getting an alternative party elected? How come were stuck with these two guys?!?! I dunno personally I think both canidates are terrible, though I like Kerry's voting record with the environment.. But he's another corporate bastard. And not much different than Bush. Also he's defiently not a humanitarian. So help me out.

 

Anyone who is NOT angry is completely in the dark about what is going on in the world and the United States. Or you've been brainwashed by the Bush Administration. You're damn right I'm angry. About too many things to list. You all should be angry.