State Your Unpopular Opinions

Do you think this means the dropping of the bombs was more immoral; or more justifiable to stop the pointless loss of American life?

I've always agreed with you and always struggled with the question I just asked.

 

I think attractive people shouldn't be allowed to waire clothes

 

I think Steve Jobs was an asshole, not a spiritual and enlightened being. It's not Breaking Bad, it's thousands of Chinese workers in horrible working conditions and the theft of other peoples ideas.

 

I think abortion is murder. I think Liberals who believe in "free choice," are selfish pieces of shit. So, you want to kill a child, (which can be the next Albert Einstein,) just because you're poor or lazy?? Fuck you!!

 

Dub step is not a form of music or any type of art. It all sounds the same

Democrat? Republican? I could care less, they both suck. Your political views aren't better than everyone else

Capitalism and Consumerism is wrong, shove that Walmart up your ass and leave me alone

 

"Capitalism and Consumerism is wrong, shove that Walmart up your ass and leave me alone"



Qft!

 

I think it's wrong for people who find out they are having a deformed baby to go to term especially in the cases of people who will require assistance throughout their lives

 

As a deformed child (born with no fingers on either hand except one thumb) I believe it would have been murder for my mother to have killed me in utero, because she was too scared to grow a pair and find out later that she would have a totally independent, non-assistant needing child.
Who 24 years later would giver her a beautiful, whole, grandchild.

 

:2thumbsup: you mum is extremely brave, I am not sure where I am on the subject as I have worked with server cases of deformity and brain damage. I know I couldn't have an abortion but if I knew I am not sure I could put a human being through the stigma and pain that can come from living.
I like to feel they were a gift to teach us in this life..Tough one...

I feel it is good to stay at home man and/or woman and raise your children, not get someone else to do it. Live on little rather than falling into the trap of wage slaving..

 

I was born with a disabling anomaly (which was made much worse due to mistreatment of it in my childhood) and I wish I had been aborted.

I am unable to have children, but if I was able to, I would see it as my body, and therefore my choice alone as to whether I aborted the feotus inside me, or not. And I most definitely don't see abortion as murder.

Men's opinion on the matter I see as less valid than women's, as women are the ones who have to carry the child around inside them for 9 months, and have to go through the agony of childbirth. I suspect that if it was men who had the babies, a lot of them who are against abortion probably wouldn't be so quick to jump to their judgements.

 

I very very rarely tell anyone this one because it isnt worth the argument.
i think violent retards should get the death penalty. And I would be almost ok if they were the only ones that did.

 

i agree almost completely. The part I disagree with is that it does take two to make a baby and if the father wants the baby and is willing to take full care of it then that is the one time im pro life

 

I see you totally disregarded the point I made about the woman having to carry the child and give birth to it. Seeing as it's the woman, not the man, who has to go through the physical trauma of carrying and then giving birth to the child, then I feel the final decision on whether to keep or abort must always be the woman's. It does take two to make a baby, but it's only the woman who has to suffer the physical trauma in the aftermath of that process, not the man.

 

I didnt disregard it. I just disagree. that physical trauma is the consaquenses of your actions.

 

Less valid?? Firstly, birth control is readily available. Abortion shouldn't be used as it is today in America, as some type of "Plan B!" Secondly, you contradicted yourself in this condescending post. You said "I don't see abortion as murder," then you said "women are the ones who have to carry the child around inside them for 9 months," But you were right the second time. It is a CHILD not a fetus. And you act like I should give two shits about a womens "comfort." It may be your body holding the child, but it is the CHILDS body that selfish women decide to dispose of, as if it were a piece of garbage.

You always have the option to kill yourself if you're that miserable, but it's not your CHOICE whether a child will ever be able to see the light of day. This isn't even unpopular, no, you think like most lazy and selfish Americans. "Oh Im uncomfortable, I'm just going to kill my baby so I FEEL better," or "oh, it's MY BODY and MY CHOICE"

But you're fucking wrong!!! What about the childs body, the childs right to life? None of that matters to ignorant people like YOU, because regardless, the WOMEN gets to wake up the next morning, even if the child does not!!!

Your answer is sick and appalling, and displays the very problem with this country. That you think your COMFORT is more important than a child's life!!!

 

If some on the conservative right get their way, birth control will not be readily available. It shouldn't be used as a "plan B", but at the same time, no type of birth control is completely fail-safe, and there is also the not insignifcant matter of rape. It is a fetus in the initital stages, not a child. Slaughtering and torturing living, breathing, sentient animals who can feel pain just the same as we can is far more morally reprehensible than aborting a two week fetus, which won't feel anything, yet the former scenario is condemned far less, and sometimes not at all, by those who are so vociferously "pro-life". And is also perfectly legal if done for "food" or "research purposes". If you don't condemn the former scenerio, whilst condemning the latter, you're simply a hypocrite, and species fascist.

Oh, I see... it's perfectly okay for a human to suffer, as long as it's after birth? After all, they can simply choose to end their own lives if it's that bad, can't they? The quality of a child's life once it exists the womb is obviously of little, or no concern to idiots such as yourself. People like you say it's not okay to abort a weeks-old fetus which can't feel pain, with absolutely no thought whatsoever to the mental and physical well-being of the resulting child who WILL be able to feel pain, and trauma. It's nothing to do with being "lazy", and everything to do with looking at the bigger picture, and not looking at this issue in simple "black and white" terms as you are painting it as. I think you are the selfish one in your attitude, not me.

You are the one who is ignorant here matey, not me. If you care more about the "welfare" of a fetus who cannot feel pain, or mental distress, more than the suffering of children who are already born and can feel those things, and sentient animals who can feel pain just as much as we can, then it's your attitude that is sick and appaling. Having a child is a big deal, and with so many unwanted, and abused children in the world, as well as the huge global problem of over-population, it is quite clear that the issue is not as cut and dried as you'd like it to be. YOUR attitude is actually, the very problem with America today.

 

You're whole argument is a load of shit!!! What makes you think a fetus can't feel pain?? There's no conclusive evidence that they cannot.

Furthermore, no, I can give two shits if you decide to kill yourself; because it's YOUR body and YOUR CHOICE. And look at you bitching about the conservative right, why should they pay for your birth control? If you leftist had it your way, you'd get free food, free medical and, get to sit on your ass and abort every baby you ever held, at someone ELSES expense. Do you work invisible soul?? Do you pay taxes?? Because I'm sure every tax payer is DYING to pay for other people's birth control!!!

I'm not even getting into the animal thing, because I've spent the better part of my life saving animals from mistreatment, so that argument is invalid. Over population?? God! now you're starting to sound like a eugenics doctor!! Please, get your head out of your ass, and go crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of.

 

Scientists in the field know more about the issue than me, and indeed, you. The vast majority in the field believe that the onset of pain can start anywhere between 18 and 28 weeks. That isn't conclusive or irrefutable evidence, but the expert's opinions on that matter are more valid than mine or yours as they have experience in the field, we do not. You have a problem with the assertion I made? Take it up with the expert scientists in the field, not me. Don't shoot the messenger.

EXACTLY! The (standard of) quality of life and welfare of a child once it has exited the womb is of no consequence or concern to you and your ilk. I do not live in the US, but I know the basics of the policies of the political parties in that country, and what you are spouting, is clearly the rantings of a far-right conservative nutter. You said you "don't give two shits" if someone kills themselves, which says all I need to know about how "compassionate and caring" you are as a person.

ALL tax payers have to pay for things that they themselves don't need, or would have no wish to pay for, given the choice. This applies to people on the left as well the right.

No, the arguement isn't invalid, because even if what you say is true, you are not a spokesperson for all "pro-lifers" when it comes to the subject of animal welfare. Though my arguement against you personally still stands if you can turn a blind eye to animal torture as long as it's in the name of "scientific research". You are the one spewing venemous, antagonist vitriol, and you have the nerve to tell me to "crawl back into my hole"? I suggest you take your own advice, bucko!

 

Why would I give a fuck if someone made a CHOICE to end their own life??
I am opposed to people ending a baby's life, because it isn't their body. If you want to talk politics, bring it to the politics forum, I have nothing to prove to you. I am a libertarian, not a conservative.

And?? What is your point?? Is there a point? I feel like I'm listening to you arguing with yourself. Yeah, we have to pay for things we don't want; that's no reason to increase the amount of spending, in a country that's already 18 trillion dollars in debt.

Ummm yes! It is invalid. So you're saying just because I'm not some Peta activist who blows up labs, I condone the torture of animals? Again, pointless.

How old are you and where are you from?? Cause here I am, nearly my whole life, thinking Americans were the ignorant ones..

I'll listen to more of your incoherent jargon tomorrow.

 

Because in many cases, someone chooses to kill themselves because they have little, or no quality of life. In at least some of these cases, the mental and physical trauma began in childhood. I didn't suddenly wake up as an adult or even a teenager, and suddenly have a wish to die. I wished I was dead even when I was a child. Would you have told me when I was a child that you wouldn't give a fuck if I died? And if not, why not? The reasons for my misery now are pretty much the same as they were when I was a child.

The point is, people like you would be better spending your energy on the children who have already been born and who are suffering. It's funny that the pro-life brigade have so little concern for a child's quality of life once they are out of the womb. A child's welfare and quality of life afterbirth should be the primary concern for all those who care about children, and humanity in general. In the case of most pro-lifers however, it is at least a secondary concern to the rights of a week old fetus, and sometimes not even a concern at all.

Yet you want to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies? Like I said, this is not a "black and white" issue, no matter how much you try to assert otherwise.

More than half of that debt was inherited by the Obama administration from the previous one. But in any case, if the US is like the UK, cutting taxes for the rich, whilst increasing the tax burden on the poor and vulnerable, then those who are well-off are the last people who should be complaining about where their taxes are going. In any case, my point is not invalidated by what you said.

I'm not a Peta activist either, and I don't blow up labs. I simply wanted to know if you condoned torture and murder of animals in the name of "research". You are creating a strawman with psychobabble about Peta activism and lab bombing. Lots of people who are against animal testing are not involved in either of those things, inculding myself. So to make a connotation between the two is misleading, and completely unrelated to the point I put to you. So no, it wasn't pointless at all.

All the ignorance is pouring out of your mouth, I'm afraid. As is the "incoherent jargon".