State Your Unpopular Opinions

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Fluffernutter, Jul 11, 2009.

  1. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If Kanye West says it, then it must be right

    West's declaration of innocence for Cosby -- who is charged in a sexual assault case in Pennsylvania and has been publicly accused of assault by more than 50 women -- did not sit well with many people, including celebrities like actress and comedian Sarah Silverman.

    "Kanye!! You can't be for real. FIFTY WOMEN. With nothing to gain thank to a statue of limitations ON RAPE. Oy," Silverman wrote.

    Hotwater
     
  2. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    What is that? Something you see on your computer somewhere.........with my words or your own dissection.......?
     
  3. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    that's the dynmically generated html markup for the post you wrote
     
  4. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I suspected it was html's fault.....:p
     
  5. xenxan

    xenxan Visitor

    Hence the issue with society as of today.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    LOL :D PR it's fair to point out you just replied like that because you are one of those conspiracy theorists that gets criticized a lot for it.

    But I think it is good to be aware most of them are primarily shunned for the alternative conclusions they come up with, and the unconvincing proof they generally have for it, and of course the certainty with which they convey their conclusion, while it is rarely certain at all. It's unfortunate, false and weak to put it as if they are simply demonized for thinking outside of the box or questioning the official story. It's how most of them do it and communicate about it what's earned the conspiracy theorist in general their dubious status.
     
  7. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    Unpopular opinion:

    To my mind, a "conspiracy theorist" is someone who transparently constructs or immediately buys into a narrative which casts them as the intellectual and moral superior of everyone around them while also insulating them from the possibility of ever having to do anything practical to change the situation. Usually this narrative is based on dubious evidence, circular reasoning and faulty logic.

    The most obnoxious thing about them is that they insist that the reason for their unpopularity is that they are lone rebel mavericks rebelling against the system by asking uncomfortable questions. In reality the reason people hate them is because they are smug,arrogant and think sharing a poorly made youtube video makes them Che Guevara.

    Questioning the official version of events is a must, but immediately rushing to cram whatever is in the news into your personal conspiracy theory by deliberately searching for evidence to back up your position to the exclusion of any evidence that contradicts you is what makes a "conspiracy theorist" rather than just someone who is sceptical of their government and media.

    Therefore a "conspiracy theorist" and someone who immediately swallows the official version of events are as bad as each other, both just desperate to believe in a narrative for personal reasons rather than as the result of objectively considering and researching the facts.
     
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  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Conspiracy theory was a term coined by the corrupt government and media in the 60s, in the wake of JFK's assassination, to marginalize and discredit anyone with an alternative view not authorized by the mainstream media and general public consensus. I don't use that term, but that term seems to be used on anyone who asks simple questions anyone with a working brain would ask themselves, like... uh, why would a 47-story building that came down on 9/11 collapse when it was not even hit by an airplane, and why was it reported to have collapsed by the media before it collapsed?? Wouldn't anyone who is actually aware of this want these questions answered??
     
  9. xenxan

    xenxan Visitor

    You are right in some points but a Conspiracy Theorists needs to be a bit tough in order to shoulder the repercussions of the general believers of what they read or hear is truth. Generally a Conspiracy Theorist does not stoop to the name calling and childishness level that is thrown in their general direction.

    The issue is there is more general believers in what is said and heard is truth then the ones who question the narrative.
     
  10. Sitka

    Sitka viajera

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    Truth is absolute, not relative.
     
  11. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    The repercussions only ever serve to prove their point and further entrench them in their belief system. You can't cast yourself as a righteous rebel if the squares are on your side. But aye, they to tend to alienate themselves from people with their views, which probably isn't fun. Although they do tend to look down on those that they are alienating themselves from, so it can't be too much of a burden.

    It's less name calling (although "sheeple" and its equivalents are quite commonly used phrases) and more of a general attitude of insufferable condescension towards anyone who hasn't leapt to their conclusion that tends to rankle.

    I think that there are more people willing to question official narratives than many conspiracy theorists would like to admit. However, to the theorist, the fact that these people's questioning has not lead them to the same conclusion, rooted in their personal favourite conspiracy narrative, as the theorist means that, to them, these people are unthinking sheep. It's a bit like how, for example, a fundamentalist evangelical christian might assume that the only reason that everyone else is not a fundamentalist evangelical christian is that they have not read the bible. In fact, many people have read the bible and reached different conclusions.
     
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  12. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    If you go to Walmart before 8:00 AM.... You are the "People of Walmart".
     
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  13. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    I get off work at 6am and work a couple miles from walmart. Am I a person of walmart because I don't want to drive all the way home and wait two hours before I go all the way back to buy my dinner for the night.
     
  14. Spectacles

    Spectacles My life is a tapestry Lifetime Supporter

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    The only time I go to Walmart is at 6 am. I like to go in, get what I want and get out. Usually there is only staff there and I rarely ever have to wait to check out. Then again I don't like lots of people. The staff at our store is friendly.
     
  15. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    I used to go in during the last hour or the first hour that they are open but with my new schedule I can't get there during the last hour on my days of work.
     
  16. themnax

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    if all the slang words for homosexuality apply to everyone who isn't a knuckle dragger,
    they just have to be taken as a compliment,
    even by those of us who don't actually swing that way,
    as i rather suspect most of us don't.

    but i do say, more power to everyone who avoids contributing to the human birthrate.
     
  17. xenxan

    xenxan Visitor

    Unfortunately the ones not contributing to the human birthrate as you say, are not the ones the world REALLY needs to not contribute.

    Slang words will never go away, it is the only method people have to put someone down and to make themselves feel better about their own mundane confined world.
     
  18. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    no one has to confine themselves to a universe narrowed by their own perceptions. it is the important job of art in society to make people aware of that. at least the kind of art i'm interested in. world concepts and that sort of thing. we don't need excuses for keeping things screwed up when we are perfectly capable of not doing so. of course i realize not everyone can be expected to think or act responsibly, but statistically a large enough percentage of us can, to create such a world that everyone can, each in their own way in joy and find creative gratification in.
     
  19. xenxan

    xenxan Visitor

    No there should not be excuses for keeping things screwed up but there is a world full of those narrow minded types who cannot perceive a world different then the one they have created for themselves. All it takes is a change in mindset to unleash a whole new look upon the world but in their mind it is too hard or they deem it impossible and blame others for their misfortune.

    A large portion of us can create a meaningful and peaceful world to live in but the negativity outweighs the positiveness in todays world. Even the most positive person is blinded by the negativity of those around them.

    Why should some shoulder the burden of the negativity? It will, in the end, turn ourselves into what we try so hard to overcome.
     
  20. Eerily

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    I don't understand.
     

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