stingy doctors

Discussion in 'Opiates' started by burnabowl, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. Guitar

    Guitar Senior Member

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    at least you got some type of prescription, if i tried to get one the doctor would probably know for sure i'm a fiend since i'm so young, and i'd also like to know if blowing oxy can show definite damage to the nose like cocaine.
     
  2. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    yeah getting this doc to give me a decent rx required a lot of patience and a lot of unassuming compliance with whatever he recommended. never really mentioned pk's. an er doc told me since I'm so young I probably wouldn't get good pk's. but patience was the answer; I thought this guy was a total putz when I first met him and I thought he'd be the last guy to give me oc's (I think he tries to convey that on purpose so pk scammers don't stick around knowing that eventually they'll get a fix). I consider myself a druggie, but he doesn't see me that way at all.
     
  3. Verisimilitude

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    Hey man, Just because you are young doesn't mean you are immediately identified as a druggie seeking his fix when you ask for pain relief... I'm just a year older than you and I've had a legit prescription for OC's and Perc's for almost 9 months now.

    As most people have said already, it takes patience, compliance, and some sort of condition that causes pain that can't be easily tested and disproved.

    I get my pills for joint pain: at first a doc will just give you percs or hydros, but once your pain is determined to be chronic (round the clock and lasting for a month or longer) then he can prescribe oxy's or some other extended release medication.

    The point is, if you do your homework and know how to come across as sincere you'll reach your goal, whether that is pain relief or getting high, or as it is for me, both.

    -V
     
  4. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    I thought about starting a new thread for this inquiry, but figured I'd just bump this one since it has background info. It was fun to go re read it back when I was new here and didn't know any of you and know I do to some extent, so that was entertaining.

    I'm still on the same (16) 10mg oxycontin per every 4 weeks. Since then my perspective of oxys has changed drastically. I used to place them on a very high pedestal and now I just see them as any old drug. In a way I like them more by liking them less.

    Anyway, I'm wondering if it would be prudent or stupid to request a dose increase. I don't need more for my pain, but I find that oc's are a powerful form of currency, and often other items I want are more easily delivered if I compensate with a few little "white devils." Plus I have friends who think the world of oxys, and it gives me pleasure to hand some over to them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not introducing anyone to the world of opiates or giving them too much that they'll be stupid with them, just helping in this way because I'm in a position to help.

    i'm clueless about a few things.
    1. I know there's the tolerance thing, but I don't know if I can play that card since it's already such a low dose and frequency I don't know if a tolerance build up would occur. And since I don't take them as rx'd, but snort them in half the time I'm supposed to swallow them, I can't tell firsthand if one would get a tolerance build up.
    2. The doc says at each visit "so the oxycontin is still helping?" and I say "yep," since I don't want to mess with a good thing. But is he asking whether I need a dose increase??? I just don't want to say "well I think my tolerance is going up," and for him to say "well in that case maybe we should try a different medication."

    I don't really care if I get an increase, but for my friends' sake it'd be nice. How would you guys play it if you wanted an increase?
     
  5. recoveringhereon

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    In my opinion it would depend on how long you've been on the dose your at. I'd say wait a month or so and tell him your migranes are starting to come back or something. I haven't ever gotten dopesick or had any tolerance to oxys when i used to do them. But with heroine the tolerance develops fast as a jackrabbit on speed. At first you'll get hih off of 10 dollars worth of dope, that would be almost a tenth of tar or a good china pill. then the next thing you know in a few days the tenth aint doing what it used to and you gotta do 20s, then you can't nod unless you shot a 50 piece of tar which is damn near a whole 1cc rig full.

    So i'm guessing the tolerance with oxys would be a little less severe but i'd say after a while you start telling him some similar symptoms as you had after a month, then you should get on 20 mg oxys then after a month or so do the same. But i've heard of people trying to go up or switch meds that are addictive and the doctors might try to detox you or something.
    Opiate withdrawel aint no punk, If i had the chance to do it over again i wouldnt use opiates daily, and i probably wouldn't have to wait in the methadone clinic line every day. HEroine withdrawel is the only thing in my life that i act like a bitch with, the only thing i aint been able to get off of.
    So im at the age of 19 right now, been on methadone for over a year and been a heroine addict for 4years or more. I dont want to sound like im preaching, but withdrawel from opiates is about the worst feeling in the world. So when your up to 40 mg remember that.

    There's people at the methadone clinic for oxycontin addiction and percocet i've heard of. Some people have the disease of addiction and some dont, i guess you just gotta know yourself and how you are with getting high.
     
  6. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    thanks. I'm not interested in a dose increase for my own use, though. I don't get addicted to opiates. the more I do the less I want. I don't even want more than 16 20mg. that would give me enough for my own use and enough to give away the amount that I want to friends.

    I can't just say that the headaches are coming back, because they have never left. It would have to be something like "the oxys don't seem to last as long as they did before," or they don't get to the pain as well. But I don't know if that would work only having had 16 10mg every 4 weeks. Like I said I don't use all of them myself and I don't use them as prescribed, so I don't know firsthand if someone can get tolerance buildup from just 16 10mg every 4 weeks
     
  7. sam&ella

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    famous last words? lol
     
  8. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

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    haha yeah I know it sounds ridiculous, but most people who have opiates do not get addicted. we just don't hear about them because they don't draw attention to themselves. But anyway, I say it proudly, I don't get addicted to opiates. If I wasn't hooked on weed maybe I'd have more time for an opie addiction though heh
     
  9. Oxyrisin

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    Hey Burn,
    How the hell you been,I haven't seen you lately..
    Let me tell you what my PM Doc. told me. He said that when people come in to him and tell him every other month that there pills aren't working good enough, He knows that they are starting to abuse them..
    If you take your meds as prescribed they should be effective for a long time..
    He told me this and I said thanks for the advise.. So I let him up my dose when he wants to.
    I've been seeing him for 3 years now. I started on 1 20mg oxy a day and 7 Norcos. After year 2 He uped me to 2 20mg oxys a day and the same Norcos. At year 3 he just uped me to 3 20mg Oxys a day and the same Norcos..
    I am thank full for what he gives me and after what he told me There is no way I'm going to ask him to up my doses. HAHA
    He did ask me this last time how my meds were working for me and I told him there working ok but I told him I was starting to get a stomach ache once in awhile from my Norcos, I was hoping to get changed to Percs. HAHA Fuck didn't work, instead we talked about my addiction and how sobriety was working for me and I told him I was doing great..
    So what did he do? He gave me another Oxy 20 a day LOL...
    He told me he is starting to loose patients because they keep coming in every 3 or 4 months wanting more, and he saiys they come in all fucked up saying man doc these just ain't cutting it HAHA.
    So my best advise to you is tread slowely, you know how he is and what is right for you..
    And Fuck your friends why would you want to risk getting more for your friends and lose everything.. Tell them to get there own Doc.. HAHA
    PEASE
     

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