Straight from the Torah....

There is really nothing to explain. The Jews fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy by rejecting the one who fulfilled the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament.. The Jews did what their own scriptures said they would do. He came unto His own and His own received Him not.

 

Circular Argument & Midrash
campbell34 is a self-proven believer of any fraud, providing it's a christian one! and the NT is a fraud from the very beginning ~
The very first page of the New Testament introduces the major contradiction of the inconsistent genealogies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke (Matthew says that Jacob is the father of Joseph; Luke says Heli is the father of Joseph, and from there back to Solomon not a single name is the same; not even the same number of generations).
And another prophecy fulfilled ~
Isaiah 7:14 which loopy christians claim to be a jesus/messiah prophecy............. who shall be given the name "Immanuel." This cannot be referring to the son of Mary and Joseph, since they did NOT name him Immanuel, but Jesus. The only reference to the name Immanuel in the entire New Testament is Matt 1:23 referring to Isaiah's prophecy, but even Matthew never actually uses that as a name or reference to Jesus and, in fact, there is no Bible record of Jesus being named or even ever called or referred to as "Immanuel."
The case of the missing Immanuel. Yooo-Hoooo! Immm - annnn - u - elllll, where are yooouuuuu?

 

Yup, and later in the N.T. it says not to give to much credit to endless genealogies and Jewish fables. The point of the N.T. was not to worry about endless genealogies, it is to educate about God. If the point of the N.T. was to appear to have accurate genealogical information, the church would have edited it long ago.
Anyway, as you are aware, Jesus spoke in fables (parables), which are ficticious (get it?) stories intended to illustrate a point. Taking the fables and parables contained within the bible literally will not convey the message that the bible is made to convey. I mean, do you really think that the parable about the merchant and the pearl means that heaven is literally a pearl that you can buy with all of your possesions?

Well, emmanuel the series was a great boon to my teenage years. I mean, I really didn't understand life yet, but at least God was with me and brought me kickass soft core porn.

Anyway, immanuel is a word meaning "God is with us" which is what Jesus revealed (or attempted to reveal) to the populace. Once again, taking the bible literally seems to be the problem, for nowhere does it reveal that Jesus's nickname was immanuel. Without this essential peice of information, people are left squabbling over a stupid point, which shows God's sense of humor....

 

you are really stubborn aren't ya? They don't feel like he is their messiah, that's it. Like the Christians don't believe Muhammed to be a messenger of God. Simple as that. Get over it already, you don't see muslims bashing Christians here for not accepting Muhammed in their lives here either. Everyone believes something else, that's why it's called faith because it's not hard science.. *sigh*..

 

What kind of a goose are you?
Not one thing you say has any contextual relevance to the point being made. As usual it is your simplistic christianized spin.
How many ignore lists are you on? Add one more.

 

Well done.

Lol, you do this very often, say something entirely untrue. Of course, you might not have detected the relevance to the points you were making. Or you could be teasing me... blorp!

Lol... that's all your response to my message is, spin. I just deleted something comparing you to rush limbaugh, then realised I would have to put you in Bill Oreilly's company as well so might as well mention it...

I dunno. Sometimes you say something intelligent. Sometimes you act like a moron. You are pretty random, except for your standard vehemance towards certain organized religions, which is probably an act (that is if you aren't a moron).

Stop teasing me with your superior intelligence!!!! Narf!

 

Sometimes things only appear to be a counterdiction that some would really like to hang their hat on. This site offers a possible explination.
http://www.pregnantpause.org/adopt/joseph.htm
Most of the supposed counterdictions in the Bible are like this.

 

Conjectures such as contained in the site linked cannot explain away a biblical contradiction that is supposed to be the inspired inerrant word of God. The messiah was to be named Immanuel, and there is yet to be any Immanuel. The blood lines are so diffrerent as to make a total mockery of the supposed inerrant word of God claim. That the supposed most important person in history can have an unknown name and lineage when they both were supposed to be foretold is incredible. To explain it away is even more incredible.

 

The Messiah has many names which are found in the Old Testament, and the Old Testament has never stated that only one of these name would be used. That belief, is an invention of error. Prince of peace, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Immanuel, ect. And every one of these names are used to describe Jesus Christ. There is a legal blood line, and a biological blood line, and Christ is supported by both.

 

that's you opinion, there are others, like the above posters'. Why are you so desperately trying to let everyone believe what you believe?

 

Because everyone is important to God, and God wants everyone to enter His Kingdom. Yet the Bible states that most people will turn away from God. So when I see things that I know are untrue I will respond in a hope that someday someone will understand. I have had a number of encounters with Christ over the years. I know how real He is, and I know how important it is for people to know Him. God's third day is only 28 years away.

 

if it's that important to God he could've send a more clear message don't ya think? If he has that much power and cares that much about us lost sheep, why doesn't he do more to 'save' us? Seriously..

and the second coming of christ is 28 years away? He told you that or what? Must be nice having this little encounter with the person that so many people worship.. you must be very very special for him to visit you

Must be nice living in your head But hey, whatever makes you happy.

 

As usual, you put spin above fact. All of the names you've nominated are nothing but a christianized attempt to give credence to the fabrication of the messiah by usurping the Torah & OT for the dubious intent of validating a false messaniic doctrine.
Your statement that the Old Testament has never stated that only one of these name would be used highlights your own deceiptful methodology, for you (ie christianity, which I presume you represent) use the very same names in your attempts to prove jesus, thereby contradicting you own statement ~ that the Old Testament has never stated that only one of these name would be used ! Are you not aware of the gravity of your own refutation? Obviously not! But bent minds cannot think straight.
And while you are attempting to untwist your twist, you might like to look up what a bloodline is!!
"Legal bloodline" is the most utterly stupid assertion. Ever.

 

Who so ever seeks me with all his heart, and all his mind, and all his soul will surly find me. Those who could care less about God will never get it. God reveals Himself to those who are searching for Him. The real question is, why do you spend your life ignoreing God? Jesus did not tell me His coming was 28 years away, but the Bible gives to time references in the Old and New Testaments, and both Testaments appear to indicate this.

 

The Old Testament gives us a list of names for the messiah, how can you call that a fabrication. It has nothing to do with spin that is a biblical fact. There is know deceiptful methodology here. The Bible clearly gives you this list.

 

Are you talking about yourself or god now? Shady shady..

I respect everyones faith.. but I don't respect when people try to convince others by twisting words and facts.. MrRee said it so much better than I could so just read his post again, without prejudice.

Been there, done that, found out it was a hoax

Hard to ignore sometimes you don't believe in at the first place eh? It's like me telling you to stop ignoring that large pink elephant on your left. What? Exactly, it's not there, so you can't ignore it.

Good to know, now I can sit back instead of finishing my school and get a job.. and why have kids? I wont grow old anyway if it's all over in 28 years from now...

I mean.. come one.. I'm quite spiritual but I'm also very down to earth and factual.. and I sure as hell let everyone believe what they want, as long as they don't go around trying to convince everyone. Respect Jews, respect pagans, respect 'satanists'.. each his own. Think like it this way, the less people find God the more space you'll have in heaven and the more attention you'll get from Him (why do I have this mental image of Neverland now? hehe.. disturbing).

 

Then where is Immanuel? If the messiah was to be named Immanuel, he was to be named Immanuel. Not Fred, or George, or Campbell34. Immanuel.
The Jews rightly know and state that christianity is a false doctrine based upon false claims of a false messiah with a falsified bloodline.
Such basic logic is well out of the reach of indoctrinally mind-bent (brainwashed) christians, though.

 

so does god except jews into heavan?

 

According to the word of God, only those whom accept the salvation plan, which is through Jesus Christ (God in the flesh, will recieve the kingdom of God.)

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh... so denying Christ, is denying God himself.

Calvary was won through humanity, not divinity. In order God to become a blood sacrifice to bare our sins, he first had to become flesh.

You can find where those of the old testament did not go to Heaven until Christ rescued them from hell.

 

Again you have centered on only one name when the Bible gives Him many. The names given are descriptive in nature and that is the point the Old Testament is trying to make. In Isaiah 9:6 it states, HIS NAME WILL BE CALLED ''Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Also in Isaiah it states His name will be called Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
If Fred, George, and Campbell34 were descriptive AND APPLIED, you could use those names to.
The Old Testament gives Him no less than five different names, and tells you His NAME WILL BE CALLED ALL OF THEM. Yet you have centered your whole arguement on only one of the names to make it appear as if it were a counterdiction. Jesus Christ is the Wonderful Counselor, He is the Might God, He is the Everlasting Father, He is the Prince of Peace, and He is God with us.