Straight Pride Flops

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by GuerrillaLorax, Sep 2, 2019.

  1. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    You dont seem to be ending in a point there. You are saying domestic violence is too random to do anything about and that all violence is punishable by law

    And?
     
  2. Consider the range of audience such a story gets for gay victims:
    • People who love gays and want to know more
    • People who hate gays and want to know more
    • People who want to know what kind of weapon was used so they can buy one
    • People who want to know what kind of weapon was used so they can protest the seller/manufacturer

    That's a lot of readership/clicks/exposure/ad revenue.......

    The audience for battered women:
    • Other battered women
    • People who batter women
    • People who want to batter people who batter women
    • People who thought it was about making cakes
    Like it or not, it's a smaller following for a much larger problem. THIS is where humanity has failed to evolve upward and continues to think in primitive terms.
     
  3. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Not really a contradiction. Domestic violence is punishable by law, and police officers often die bravely trying to enforce it. Typically, it's not easily deterred because it's so intensely personal and done in the heat of the moment. My point was that racial violence is aimed at category of people instead of a particular person, and therefore poses a special kind of problem to society.
     
  4. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    It doesn't

    It's people like you who say that none the 3 exist. I'm not sure what you mean. You are moving the goal post. It's always the issue we are not discussing that matters so nothing is fixed on any front.
     
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  5. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    There's a Taylor Swift video that reminds me of this thread, or rather this thread reminds me of the video. It discusses people who are up in arms about LGBTQ. Taylor hands out some poignant disses and there are some pretty cool cameos. Here is the video.



    EDIT: here is a list of the cameos

    Every Celeb Cameo in Taylor Swift's 'You Need To Calm Down' | Umusic
     
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  6. I watched that video the first time you posted it, and seeing it is one of my biggest regrets in life.
     
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  7. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    ahahha, You don't like that?! Omg. :)

    Well, I think it's fantastic.
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    And for the 2nd time in a row, an abstract post that doesnt say anything

    Are you just now trying to make it look like you are arguing with VG? Even though you dont have a point
     
  9. Vagina Gorilla?
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    So I say I dont get why the gay hate thing gets more attention than domestic or racial violence

    You reply with its people like me that say the 3 dont exist

    ?????

    That would be the 3 things I was just talking about people like me say dont exist


    ??????


    Maybe you need to cut down on the soy milk
     
  11. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Neonsoggybiscuit ;)
     
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  12. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Seems to me I made the point. The fact that you didn't get it speaks to your limited intelligence.
     
  13. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Yeah, lol, you made a point

    "My point was that racial violence is aimed at category of people instead of a particular person"


    Your point being racial violence is aimed at a category of people.....based on their race I would presume

    Groundbreaking
     
  14. Someone really needs to put you in your place, Vanilla Gorilla, and I'm going to do my best.
     
  15. Okiefreak

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    But relevant to the distinction between racial violence and domestic violence, which you didn't seem to be able to get. Sometimes the obvious needs to be stated to dumb it down for slower (simian) minds.
     
  16. soulcompromise

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    Ok alright. It's like the Taylor video says, everyone just calm down... :D

    Seriously though, there is absolutely nothing wrong with social awareness. I think it's fantastic that @neonspectraltoast is voicing concern over violence of any kind. And violence against homosexuality is blooming rampant everywhere you bloody turn, so there's that.

    I guess what I could personally work on is trying to better understand what my role is in not only raising social awareness on the topic of gay rights, but my role as a voice in raising awareness about other issues too.
     
  17. unfocusedanakin

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    It's what aboutism and in relation to America a common right wing technique to not discuss any issue seen as "social justice". Any social justice means it's people who are not white men making trouble and in Trump's world it's OK to be white. The amount of people who say they are not racist who say that now is such hypocrisy. It's a Nazi phrase meant to appear as both sides yet carries an undertone. The words don't have to mean what they do. Sure I am white I'm OK but you don't mean that you mean on a the level of social hierarchy.

    To address racial violence in America means things like BLM and Democratic leaders are in place. NOT someone with polices like Trump or the current Republican party?. You have expressed support for those political views so you are not addressing black or Mexican issues. You have said for example that the cages Latin people live in right now are fine even when they are children or whose only "crime" is fleeing the cocaine trade.

    At best or worse depending on you see it you would support the idea of these people committing violence against white people with terms like "forced diversity" and Affirmative Action laws.

    Domestic violence though women is addressed though Feminism. Through proactive laws and support of things like Me Too. Also through abortion laws in some ways.

    You do not seem to support those things too. If you do you would have to be an individual and not a blind slave to a political party of a country you don't even live in. So correct me if I am wrong.

    Is abortion OK and up to women only?
    Should we believe a women if she says a man did something sexual to her?
    Is Feminism by design meant to hate men and make men a victim of the same things women say men do?
    Or is it a good thing that allows a bad person to lie? Something which is true of most any right or freedom.

    Like I said look in the mirror before you talk if you want to change something. All issues that matter matter. We can not rank and compete and say since we have not solved this one we can't look at that one.
     
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  18. peacencass

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    Lil grain of sand here guys but...

    Sometimes it seems like y'all trying to have an argument over which minority or which community has it the worst, which one needs more representation, which one gets killed or beat up more often... These should not be issues that you pit against each other. They should be laid out on the table, on the same level. The most toxic part of it is when someone mentions LGBTQ+ violence/sexism/racism/xenophobia and someone else steps in instantly to say "yeah well the _____ community also has the shit kicked out of them". We know this. Do not try and belittle our struggle by using your struggle. This is not a competition.

    Also, FYI I do not understand why some of you believe that violence towards women gets less coverage than LGBTQ issues... I'm not sure where y'all from but that's just blatantly not true. It may be true in as far as media coverage because guess what, the gays are hot right now and all the media cares about is making money, but trust me when I say that (in Europe at least) women that are in violent situations have much more protection offered to them than LGBTQ+ kids in homophobic households.

    Editing to add that okay, y'all are clearly from America & know more about what's represented and what's not in your own country, but don't assume that the whole world thinks that way or that the same LGBT+/domestic violence laws hold up in every country. You can be killed for being LGBT+ in some countries. Women are trodden-down slaves to their husbands in others. The LGBT movement attaining such a following also has a lot to do with the fact that all over the world people are still murdered because of their sexual orientation.
     
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  19. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Something tells me you werent one of those LGBT kids though
     

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