Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

It occurs to me waterbrother to express my affection for you. You are in my heart as my own, not as a wayfarer far my my own community.

I will give you a statement in principle as to gods command of eternal life.
Jesus said, not my will but thine, and father to thee I commend my spirit.
Christ is risen, it is gods will that the spirit of his children be everlastingly alive.

Also, as to the idea that patience is equivalent to long suffering.

The patient do not suffer because they are patient. Their patience is born of the fact that only the truth is true and what is false is by definition not true,
That is, that love never fails, so there is no cause for impatience, or suffering.

Further love does not endure all things in the sense that it endures all kinds of indignity. It endures all things because it is solid, never failing. There is no sense of indignity in love. There is no such thing as righteous indignation. Righteousness and indignity and two different heads going in two different directions. A mythical creature like a push me pull you from dr. doolittle.
There is no indignity in righteousness and we cannot have righteousness lest we share it with our brother.

 

Vernaculars desires the literal bible; but maybe there is something to that. We are to prone to situations of our own concern still when preached to and must decide to set aside reading into erroneous contexts.

For instance, is the parable of the wasted Talens of the workers returning to the master still applicable with respect to the demonstrators against Wall Street? "Just doing my job." cried the police officer while clubing the demonstrator. That's an example for the stock investors on Wall Street; should they continue "just doing their job".:2thumbsup:

 

I think Jesus was talking about about spiritual teachings as pearls not love. We are to love our enemies even if it's not recipricated.

 

I agree with Monkey Boy. The pearls in the verse mentioned speaks of casting spiritual wisdom as pearls and not love. Love is to be 'casted' on everyone

Verse is more speaking of how true spiritual knowledge can be be upsetting to some.

 

I think it more don't force yourself on people who are not interested.

 

ok ed. i've decided ta call you edy,cos i dont wanta call you dopey.thanks for explaining the words.i like the sound of that word synonymous.i understand everything your saying now.ya i'd prefer the word whole because the word holy ta me is more attached ta religious speaking.ya i would.consider myself that.whole!no it's not that i think holy ta be beyound my pale.its just that it would be a non-truth ta think myself holy.no i do not consider myself unworthy.unworthy of anything.actually although this may not make sense to you.if anything ta call myself holy would be unworthy ta me to myself.but i get what your saying bout the connection ta both words whole an holy.i just never though about a connection between both words before.i think its a bit more than a different way of saying things though.i think its a completely different way of thinking.like the dalai lama for example.their are many people who consider him holy.ta me i would consider him a very spiritually healthy and rich person.he has great wisdom and he shares that wisdom with others in a very simple way.i like that about him,that he does it in a way everyone can understand.i dont believe in a god.but i do believe we are all biolodgical an spiritual beings.that our bodys are just the vehicle our soul lives in and will continue to live on after physical death.

 

Because they didn't care if Jesus was a blasphemer or not. They were scheming to do away with Jesus anyway they could, because he was upsetting their apple cart.

He said that of the ones who were actually putting him to death, not the ones who accused him and sentenced him to death, who knew exactly what they were doing.

Choosing innocence over guilt? That is such a large generality as to be meaningless.

It appears that you don't know how to read or it would be apparent that I said nothing of the kind.

Well, for one thing Jesus said he was the Son of God and not "a child of god".

Also I have never called for the death of anyone, for calling himself "a child of god" and so would not have done so in Jesus' day.

In fact I have never called you guilty of anything for calling yourself "a child of god", all I did was point out that you had an Earthly mother and father and that you were not a direct creation of God.

How you equate that, to me being a part of the "rabble' that called for Jesus death is a pretty far stretch of the imagination.

I'll remind you.

 

no brother he just knows loadsa big words.he probably wenta school a lot.he sounds very academically educated. brother how come if ye all belief in the same god,then why do ye all argue so much?i dont get that.are ye from all different religions?

 

oh boy

 

Seems more like a warning to Christians that their wisdom may be met with scorn, but it does seem to be saying not to waste time with those that aren't interested as well.

Some cross referencing:
Proverbs 23:9 Do not speak to a fool, for he will scorn the wisdom of your words.

Proverbs 9:8 Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you; rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

 

They were apple salesmen?

[/QUOTE]He said that of the ones who were actually putting him to death, not the ones who accused him and sentenced him to death, who knew exactly what they were doing.[/QUOTE]
I don't know why you would make that distinction. Forgive them they know not what they do, is not a comment on what they were doing, but that they didn't know what they doing. Not they did not know what they doing, 'to the son god", or they do not know what they are doing 'to themselves". He was talking about mankind and their way in general.

Forgiveness is not judging against an act and then excusing it, it is refusing to judge.

You would like it to be, but it is very succinct. Guilt and innocence are diametrically opposed, there is no generality about it. In other words, you can't make a distinction because there is no fundamental difference between your stance and theirs.

Why does jesus say your father in heaven knows you need these things, if they are not gods children?

If you could read you would see that I did not say that you said anything.

He also called himself the son of man. When someone has more than one child
regardless of sex, we call them children. I don't say as a matter of habit my son and daughters, I say my children. But as my fathers son, I always call myself his son, I don't say I'm his child

I tell you that all are children of god, innocent in creation, created in the image and likeness of their father in heaven, eternal creative principle, and you say I am condemned. You say no we are all sinners descended from adam and that sin deserves death.
You do so now this day. There are no idle thoughts. You say you do so, because the bible says it, but it not what the bible says that justifies or condemns, it is what you say. You say how have you condemned anyone,

the answer is, in your mind.

It is a stretch for you because you don't quite get that there is a difference between form and content. The form overwhelms your senses so much that you cannot see the content. I really don't know how to breach that phenomena for you, I am sorry.

 

Surely, but how do we distinguish a fool or a swine?

 

Surely by the way one reacts or their fruitage. In the verses I showed, one would react unkindly to a rebuke and the wise would appreciate it and try to turn from it (sin). A rebuke is to help to turn away from sins and the Bible refers to many things as sin. For example, not having the things in mind of God is a sin.

Matt 16:23
"Jesus turned to Peter and said, "Get away from me, Satan! You are a dangerous trap to me. You are seeing things merely from a human point of view, not from God's."

This was after Peter had said that he (Jesus) didn't have to die or that he shouldn't.

 

Hey you talking about me? I dropped out of school in the eighth grade. I have always talked, "funny", even when very young.

Well for one, waterbrother thinks i am with some unclean spirit, he calls my spirit buddy. It is quite inane if you ask me. Also, he insists I insulted his mother.

I am chipping away at the barriers we have built against love by trying to expose that they were erected for unsound reasons.

You know, much like any family.

 

You know of course that love and affection are not the same thing.

 

Do you think sins are things or acts?

 

Is that exasperation you got there or you just happy to see us?

 

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