Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

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  1. thedope

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    My god is whatever causes all things to exist. Magnanimous intent which expresses itself as the hardness of a stone, or an instinct for self preservation, or self awareness and the highest gratitude that comes from that.

    The wisest choices come from choosing from a place of peace. We can be instinctively all in a fray, from believing things that are not true. Emotion is a vibration that follows the rhythm of thought, the thought always comes first.

    We have automatic behaviors that are instilled in us through education and although they may feel instinctive, like an aversion to eating quite edible insects, they are based on your trusting of those who taught them to you, not your instincts, at all.
     
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    In this way, the sins of the father are passed on, not through biological inheritance, but through education. Racism and its accompanying emotional revulsion is a learned affect, not an inherent instinct, although it may feel to those who were taught that way, fundamentally healthful.
     
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    Oh roamy, I did not mean to suggest that spanish in particular gave greater command of language in general but that learning more than one language was helpful.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

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    Thanx, very interesting.
     
  5. thedope

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    If the teachings of christ are not to be applied in all circumstances, from what circumstances would we withhold the teaching of christ?


    What is, "belief without doubt"?

    Belief without doubt is consistent uninterrupted focus.

    Will

    "I will, be clean."
     
  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    Well, any time you want the scriptural backing for what I've said just ask but in talking with the dope he really doesn't believe the Bible is God's word and so use of a lot of scriptures with him is nearly pointless.
     
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    Maybe thedope wants to communicate with symbols and good luck. Using language is for Godlessness, and using pure Love for God.
     
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    I like this saying, however nothing is godless, that is without god. Language is symbolic always, as words are symbols for conditions. God being love is without condition, another way to say that, is, with god all things are possible.

    The theoretical underpinning for having an unpronounceable name is that god is love, unconditional. waterbrother and I believe in the same god but he does not recognize me because the conditions he wants are different from mine. He wants sin, I do not.

    Some think it very sly that they, through proper study, had happened upon the" real name" of god and said his name is this and nothing else. Even though god is without condition and therefore cannot possibly be described by a word, a name, which is a symbol for a condition. What about the word "god"? The word god is a symbol for a condition but only alludes to the source, that is god is that which is invoked as good cause.

    God does leave a trace however and that surname we inherit in creation, I AM.

    A belief cannot be wrong. My belief, that is how I intend my mind, sets the flavor of my experience and helps flavor the experiences of those around me, because we are the salt of the earth. A belief becomes the prism through which we focus the creative power of the mind of god. Let it be love, not hate. Let it be innocence, not guilt. Let us not be men apart, but forever children of god.
     
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    I believe the bible contains gods word or godly words. I do not believe the bible "is gods words". You do not recognize my use of scripture because I do it conversationally as opposed to quoting and tagging.
     
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    But do we live in a Hole, or in a state of reconciliation for Existence?
     
  11. thedope

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    We are free in truth but have an authority problem, a problem of identification, and we cannot escape the effects of our own thinking.
     
  12. roamy

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    i dont believe anything just because someone else trys ta teach me them.there are good teachers an bad ones.i dont trust anyone except real people an i always know the difference between real an fake.ya thought always comes first,but we all have the freedom to choose which thoughts are positve constructive ones an which are negative unconstructive ones.there is something called common sense too.i have only one father and his name is'nt god.my dad. r.i.p.
     
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    well i read it literally,so i just assumed thats what you ment.ok thanks for clearin' that up.
     
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    I know I've been combating the flu all day long today and depend on cold medication (as well as persistent high blood pressure). However, I must disagree with the note on authority. We are at self-conscious freedom to consider ourselves defining what the authority is, or at least questioning It.:(
     
  15. arthur itis

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    The Bible contains the word of God. As difficult as thedope is to decipher at times, I agree with his assessment. There are words in the Bible that are not "God's words". Satan is quoted in the Bible, as is Judas Iscariot. David is quoted in the Psalms calling "bone-breaking" and "destruction" upon his enemies. Even the apostles had issues with one another's vision.

    Only the Spirit can convey the "words of God", and they are not always the same words for each and every situation. The only guarantee is that the Spirit will speak using words found in the Bible.

    Personally, I'll only consider those who believe that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, God having become flesh, as my real "brothers", and true believers. However, I do not show disdain for others, as Jesus said "And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so?" Every day, thousands who were not believers previously become so. It only takes a moment, an open heart and a willing spirit to call upon His name, addressing Him as "Lord".
     
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    By authority I mean truth. It is not for us to decide what our inheritance is, we do not create our own parents.

    What do we come seeking? Who you are.

    What do we see when we look at the world? We see the reflection of the things we look at. The same is true of our inner vision. We show up here as verdant hues and soft rain. We show up here friend or foe to our brothers. Our abundance shows up in the world.
     
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    I didn't ask you to believe anything, thank you. You asked me who my god was.
    What I am saying about thought is, there are thoughts that you think and there are thoughts brought on by habitual associations, in other words, we think in those instances without thinking, or without even being aware of the sponsoring thought that started the associative cascade. Have you ever had a thought and wondered, where did that come from?
     
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