Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

OWB:

No. People die through sheer circumstance. We have not yet understood "in general" how to eat our fill of the incidental. If you have no idea as to how we may, other than that God/Jesus do, then you are likely being misled by...yourself.

No-one lives after their death. You don't understand this.

Or that you are, since I explained how they are what one makes of them. They could be more different.

It's funny that I can entertain yours whilst mine you can't! To me anyway!

: D

Love is higher and rarer than truth.

Yes, god remains unaffected, funny that!

Others? But what sort of creator would try to convince another they are not?! Or are you talking about womankind?! LOL

 

Not being mortal, meaning of death, to begin with.

You mean woman, a lesser kind of man, as opposed to man, male and female creative principle?

 

thedope:

Like all life you mean?

thdope:

No! Woman is woman. I do sometimes dare to speak for her, and the worst I've ever suffered in return is her mockery, but then she is far more beautiful than I. : D

 

May you be blessed to the extent that Love Jehovah and go on walking according to his commandments.

 

And yet we die.

Jesus does live after death.

If you wish to define them differently, fine but then there is no common ground for futher discussion on the matter because we are now talking apple and oranges.

I can entertain all the theories you wish but they are just theories, while the truth will always be the truth.

There can be no love without truth.

Not really funny.

Some people other than yourself.

 

Yes, created, not born.

thdope:
No! Woman is woman. I do sometimes dare to speak for her, and the worst I've ever suffered in return is her mockery, but then she is far more beautiful than I. : D[/QUOTE]
I know you didn't mean that. It was a reference to the two creation stories in the bible. In one, "man", is created in the likeness and image of god, male and female. In the other man is made from dust first, and wo-man a lesser kind of man, made for man, was made from him. The second story is obviously a powerful foundation for the blessing of patrimony. The first describes male and female creative principle.

The patrimonial system is all about property, the accumulation and inheritance of, and the manipulation of others, (power). A woman can sleep with many men and the progeny will be of fate, but if she is a wife, property, then the progeny belongs to the "father".

The entire old testament after the first creation story and with the exception
of some prophecy sprinkled in, is obviously a picture of the ego of a people, claiming god to be on their side to the exclusion of anyone else. That is not to say that the old testament is not true, but that it does not paint the world in general from god's perspective, rather man's. Jesus made the statement that this is so saying, you teach the precepts of men as doctrines.

So the bible as an artifact as opposed to a belief system, is composed of a collection of books, similar in some respects only in that the purported subject is god's relation to man,or vice versa. In theory the purpose is to establish authority, in the ego's practice it's purpose is to establish authority over others. There are poems and there is dramatic narrative, and there are aphorisms.

 

Would you explain what you mean by your blessing? Are you trying to limit it, talking of extent? I am not fighting the spirit or anything like that, but asking you honestly, what that extent entails. I cannot see the same 'extent' as you, the same proportions.

If your blessing states that I should love as is the commandment, then I am under no prohibition, as there is no condition that prohibits love.

 

Like I said, we have not yet understood "in general".

Dejavu:

Why would he? Death can't be conquered through death. The life of Jesus is his own. You believe his death, what you call his sacrifice and a ransom was divinely ordained. I only believe in his life.

This is true. And funny! : D For the truth you allude to here is your take on 'immortality'!

Well said! But not so well done. Please see below:

LOL Why not? Are you suggesting you'd prefer god be affected?! Perhaps even to be nothing more than affectation?! OWB! It's unchristian! I hope your God can forget this incident! : D

 

God is love. Are you saying there is no god without the relative term truth? What god gives is true, only that. Only god is good.

 

His claim was that he laid his life down and picked it up of his own accord, mastery of life. He provided the most extreme example to inspire our own pursuit of mastery, which is founded first in mercy. Mercy undoes the chains that bind us to the laws of reciprocity. Sacrifice, is not a christ teaching.

 

I believe he was capable of his claim. That his love was such that he could lay his life down through others if he so chose. The question is, if he was able to, why did he? The ability betrayed only his potential for more life --- he was murdered...

...for nothing more than that the presence of a 'living' example was felt to be too much to be taken on too soon...

 

The body is a limit we have placed on our own being. The truth sets us free. He can be in all places at once, unbound by the length of a biological lifespan. Two thousand years and we share his thoughts. Not to vanish as waterbrother claims. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words will remain forever.

All that we know of ourselves comes from conception.

 

Free of body, not free from it. And so I conceive of knowledge that is itself conception! Form is unlimited...

My secret is spoken...and so kept!

 

This is the meaning of the mystery of communion, minds join, bodies only touch.
We let the mind be in us that is in christ.

Minds cannot attack "other minds", as mind is one. Bodies can attack and be attacked. The ego considers the body it's home and logically defends it's home from attack. Yet we are not to fear those that kill the body because they cannot kill the mind of god. The injunction to turn the other cheek if someone strikes you is not confined to perceived insults. Peace exists where the conditions of peace are met. A truce is not peace but a state of war.

Memory is living tissue. As often as you do this, remember me. As we remember together we secure the resurrection.

 

Diversity, mercy satisfying every call to being, is unlimited. And yes, mastery is to pick it up and lay it down at will, free of body, integrity of mind.

 

My body tells me now that you've picked up my spiritless questions that I have no soul. Therefore, I judge I am free by the signs on the wall for freedom which cannot exist without my BODY at psychic being there.

 

The mind of christ wanted to pass on, out of generosity, out of fullness, hence the bio-millenial credence that is paid to said passage. But that same mind also wanted to stay! That mind is changed, is always changing! : D How otherwise could it rejoin itself? And how else to rejoice?

If we resurrect the dead, we're bound to die trying! If we resurrect the living, we'll find the 'dead' were never really lost to us!

 

Mastery is not to lay down life at all!

Now that I'm speaking like a true child, I'll leave the rest up to her.

LOL

 

Exactly, it is the resurrection that establishes the atonement or the end of the dream of separation. As above so below, whatever is loosed on earth is also loosed in heaven.

 

Referring to the life of the body. Life is not confined to body, but moves through it, a communication device.