Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

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  1. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    I was reading in Galations this morning and noticed in Chapter 5 the fruits of the Spirit are modes of being and you can put "I am" in front of them. I am love, I am peaceful, I am faithful, I am self-controlled, I am gentle, I am good.
     
  2. willedwill

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    You mean that the resurrection could be regarded to be prior to the crucifixion OR (if you like) the pure redemption. For the consequences of forgiveness and compassion for the Project of Co-existence have no fulfilling community but a Society of plausible communities.

    That community of the universe, not just earth, lives on towards the One, the Creator.
     
  3. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Willedwill:
    The community lives on for itself, by virtue of the universe. Why else am I happy to commune with you? : D
     
  4. thedope

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    In a world of condition there is a body for everything, and bodies stop by to see what condition their condition is in. Our biological bodies position is warm bloodedness in a temperate clime. You may reverse any condition you find yourself in by relinquishing it. That does not mean abandon the body but to relinquish expectations for performance. It is the bodies normal reaction to a temperate climate. The immune reaction is part of health. The withering of the body is the normal product of combustion as energy is transduced. From this we get the saying unless a seed dies, it bears no fruit.
     
  5. thedope

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    Whatever you ask in my name is done for you, I am hot, I am thirsty, I am love as you say. I am as god created me, still.
    In addendum, the measure we give is the measure we receive, our goodness must be shared with our brother or we cannot experience our own, consequently, he is as god created him still, good.
     
  6. thedope

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    The moment doubt crept into the mind of the children of god they were answered.
     
  7. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    To take what was not addressed to me, and apply it ---- how decided are we ourselves in what is 'normal' to our own transduction? Surely not in relinquishment? ;D
    From this I make the saying, a seed lives to sprout!
     
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    From your saying I'll raise you another, if a seed sprouts it is no longer a seed but a sprout. If you cling to seediness then....
     
  9. thedope

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    Let us not then take the name of god in vain.
     
  10. Dejavu

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    :) D)

    thedope:
    ...you're still a sprout, and only bound so as to branch out. ;D

    You can't raise me that, being a sprout and all. Unless you do it indefinitely. Which I know you can. : D
     
  11. thedope

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    We grow together or not at all, we come apart. I said raise you, not trump you.

    Where does my eternal sproutiness leave the seed, it remains as conception.
    But conception of itself is not creation. Creation is extension. The ray of creation proceeds thusly, thought, word, and deed. We articulate our being, the body a communication device.
     
  12. thedope

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    To turn a phrase from a bugs life, it is not a rock, it is a seed.
     
  13. Dejavu

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    Conception of itself is creation. By itself, by extension. There is nothing it is not.

    We can't help but grow together.

    I'm off to grow to bed.
     
  14. thedope

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    Sweet conceptions
     
  15. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You don't know what is meant by the word "extent"?

    Here are a couple of examples for you to contemplate:

    And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did it to one of the least of these my brothers, YOU did it to me.’

    Then he will answer them with the words, ‘Truly I say to YOU, To the extent that YOU did not do it to one of these least ones, YOU did not do it to me.’ (Matthew 25:40;45)

    So it means that if you do not Love Jehovah and go on walking according to his commandments, you will not be blessed at all but if you Love Jehovah and go on walking according to his commandments the more you do so the more you will be blessed.

    For someone who truly Loves Jehovah and goes on walking according to his commandments, they would feel extremely blessed by my blessing and would find nothing to object about but for those who do not Love Jehovah and do not go on walking according to his commandments, then I can see that they might take exception to the blessing I gave.

    So tell me why do you feel the need to object to the blessing I gave?
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

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    Perhaps you do not.
    If that is what you want to believe but...
    (Acts 17:31) Because he has set a day in which he purposes to judge the inhabited earth in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed, and he has furnished a guarantee to all men in that he has resurrected him from the dead.”
    (Romans 4:25) He was delivered up for the sake of our trespasses and was raised up for the sake of declaring us righteous.
    (Hebrews 7:25) Consequently he is able also to save completely those who are approaching God through him, because he is always alive to plead for them.
    No, it is my take on the truth.
    No, all I was saying was that it wasn't particularly funny.
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    The truth is not relative and it is impossible for God to lie. That is what I am saying.
     
  18. thedope

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    I do know what extent means, I asked what you meant by it.

    These examples regard the word extent as equal to. A better word for that particular scripture is, as you do unto. Because extent is a relative evaluation.

    1. range or scope: the area or range covered or affected by something
    the location and extent of the damage

    2. degree: the degree to which something applies
    To what extent should we allow newspaper reporters into people's private lives?

    3. region: an area of land or water
    4. law writ allowing seizure of property: a writ that authorizes somebody to take possession of the property of a person who owes him or her money


    [Late 16th century. Via Anglo-Norman , "valuation of land" < medieval Latin extenta < Latin extendere (see extend)]

    So you see, an extent can mean many things. An extent can even be a law writ allowing the seizure of property. My point is that to have all, give all to all. I am not trying to chide you for inadequate performance but just to say as I said before that eyes have not seen nor have ears heard, (the extent of), the good things god has prepared for those who love him.

    Friend, you are holy through inheritance. Your blessing, your personal blessing is enough to bless the entire world.

    There is another way of regarding the questioning of "your blessing", than a lack of faith in god. That is, I lack faith in your sincerity based on my experience with you. When you use a phrase, extent, to the shell shocked it seems one is trying to impose a limit or a set price. In that respect your blessing is the offer of reward for service rendered unto your belief.

    I didn't object, I asked why are there strings attached. The reason I ask is not that I feel left out, but those things which you personally withhold from blessing, are blessings you withhold from yourself.
     
  19. Dejavu

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    My understanding is shared.

    He obviously didn't finish the job. Divinity is an ongoing act. The man who penned this must have thought life requires guarantees!

    No to the former, yes to the latter.

    A man of judgement does not plead. The man who wrote that was afraid for his life, he wanted to be saved.

    Sure, but don't deny that your 'take' on anything contains its own truth! : D

    Yes, that's obvious, but I'll ask again. Why? lol
     
  20. thedope

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    The ego survives through enforcing separation and it's salvation rests on your defeat because you stand for joining. It is the natural result of a belief system. People deny the humanity in themselves when they deny it in others.
     
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