Strengthen your faith in the bible Christians.

thedope:

I'm certain that is only one of the ways it survives. The ego that enjoys, not only wanting to, stands with me.

Yes, which is why we must consider the nature of other possible results. I have considered long and hard and been fortunate enough to find that celebration of ourselves need not occur at or incur our expense. That is the 'extent' of my gratitude.


OWB:

You've also said (in another thread ) that it's impossible for god to forget. If I was God, I'd be laughing just as I do! lol

 

Glad you have a sense of humor, to bad your sense of humor doesn't prove your point.

 

Which one?! : D

I'd better make one here on the spot! -

-Truth is always relative in as much as it has to give way to more.

Inexorable, not excretable.

 

Which "truth" are you talking about? What man calls truth or what God calls truth?

 

Whichever. Gods truth would have to be relative to god or it would cease to be gods. If gods truth is god, then the relation is in its continuation.

Relativity isn't just a theory, cousin! : D

 

It's an empirical epistemology then. They used to be people labeling themselves as deterministic empiricists, as logical empiricists, ad relational intuitionists and the similar. All in all the perception of Objects was regarded as relative in itself and the Object as a whole was the Known for the unexplained realm of so-called knowledge. The absolute was the fact that you used language. This way we as sophisticated pseudo-psychologists pretended to keep language personally relative from the knowledge of science was to be regarded common and absolute.


I'm so cold. I apologize, but the atheists seem to be embarrassing us religious referrals to academia so much these days.:biker:

 

I am speaking of a particular affectation of the christian community, a kind of blind spot. These people do not enjoy the grace associated with their faith because it's belief system is founded on the idea of inexorable guilt that demands blood, but is never satisfied.

What a breath of fine free air that extent must be, to realize that life is indeed a gift given without receipts.

 

You could say that, seek and you shall find. Self doubt is an improper use of denial.

All of the academia on spirit is right here. With us and anyone who has seen their brothers interests as their own.

Do you think academia is interested in personal revelation. Only if you have a degree and can find a peer. No degree, you have no peer lest it be disdain.

 

Surely god is true.

When you find yourself contested, it is within that we are called to turn for peace as it is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out.

Everything god says is true, have you considered that all you say may not be?

 

Ahaaaa...ah I have no disdain. If anything and this is a lot the terrorism and war of the last ten of so years has taught me christian existentialism. And maybe the trustful love of the stranger. And I still don't trust waiters in restaurants.

 

Let it be home cooking then. We will eat together.

 

You might like to think all things are relative but God's Truth is not relative, it is always true.

 

Relative to what is not, always true.

 

Again this wasn't directed at you, so most of what you said here is of context.

As for this; "Everything god says is true, have you considered that all you say may not be?"

How many times do I have to tell you that I am not perfect and make mistakes from time to time and that is why I regularly say that all should check the Bible for themselves and not just take my word for it; unlike you, who believes that it is not possible for you to ever be mistaken and all should take your word for it. (Acts 17:11)

 

Once again, I was not talking to you and so your comment is out of context.

 

The context is your relationship to the world. I have never asked anyone to take my word for it. What I have said is practice the sayings of christ and that practice will teach you that the sayings of christ are true. You will learn it, not just rely on belief, because belief always seeks to sustain itself, no matter the evidence presented against it. I know the sayings of christ are true, not because I believe that the bible is the unerring word of god, but because I have applied them universally in all situations and that broad sampling of the effects of those sayings, have assured me that they are true.

So contrary to your characterization that I am trying to lead people away from the bible, I am saying put it to the test to discover the truth of it and don't just decide among various beliefs about it. There are various beliefs about the bible but it is your life experience in relation to them that gives them meaning that can be shared.

I am not always right, if I appear certain, it is because the things I am saying are tried and true. More than any wish to be right, I do not wish to be deceived.

Your presentation is academic and does not shine with joy. "I don't think it is very funny".

 

The context is public forum. You can put me on ignore if you like.

 

The trouble is you seem to believe that you are the final say in what the teachings of christ are.

So when you disagree with what the bible says you are trying to lead them to the Bible?

"I am not always right"? Please point to one time you have ever admitted that anything you have said or done was incorrect?

So "shine with joy" and being "funny" would somehow mean that what I'm saying is true? A lot of what the Bible says is neither funny or joyous, I guess that is why you dismiss much of what the Bible says.

 

The context of what is being talked about is a litte narrower than that. The problem is if you want to just make random comments fine, please feel free to do so but when you quote a ongoing conversation and then make your random comments, then you are just disrupting the flow of the conversation. Which is not very loving.

 

I am telling you that they are true. What they are is written in the bible. The teachings of christ are not the same as those in the old testament. There is some old and some new.

However, isn't that my complaint about your position. You don't say to me every time, although you have, look it up and decide for yourself, you say, that is not what the bible says.

I don't disagree with what is written in the bible, I see it for what it is.

I apologized, I believe in this thread, might have been another, however only recently, that I had not provided a good example in my discussion with you.
You see when I experience exasperation I look to the source in myself, I do not accuse you for an agitated state.

No, it would mean that you are experiencing the ever present joy of god's grace.