Naked, on your head. But these stupid unwritten laws keep most people from even trying! Happily there's this thread now.
i love how some people pull out of their ass things totally unrelated to anything i actually said. is the sweeden thing about where you live? and english a difficult second language? perhaps that is the source of my dificulty understanding just what the point here is supposed to be. capitalism is neither a magic wand nor the will of some god. it is merely a system of using symbolic value, that has its uses, but as a yardstick for all else, makes a poor one.
Hmm. Even "liberal" commentators say that Sweden is the most feminised society around. Google it, the evidence is endless. Here's the first site I found:- http://www.visitsweden.com/sweden/Featured/Sweden-Beyond/Society/ Courtesy of the Swedish embassy no less! Personally, I think its extremely sad that the men have been all but physically castrated. But maybe you like that sort of thing?
Are you and Asmo alter-egos or something? No offence but firstly your posts are completely irrelevant to the thread. Secondly, they don't make an ounce of sense even in isolation. Have a fun Easter!
Like i said, connecting the word feminised in a feminised society to the men in that society and act like they're all feminized or emasculated pussies is what's making your post nonsense. You must be overly focussing on the word feminised and think that if the society has emancipated to a point it can be called feminised it must apply on the males in that society too. Also likely is that you are going a bit too much by the words and opinions of your swedish friends who seem to have a dislike for this development in society and are exaggerating things. Even if it would apply on a certain percentage of swedish males than still you are exaggerating things. So to summarize it for you: developments in a society that can be called feminisation do not necessarily apply on the males in that society. If a government applies a certain policy to enforce female emancipation it does not mean the male population gets emasculated. Maybe your friends put it as such, but it would be wise to use your brain and some discernment and not just go by what you heard or read just like that.
Look I've obviously struck a nerve, so I hope you enjoy your life as a "househusband" or whatever its called. But my personal view is that this Swedish thing is rather creepy, sad and an abomination against humanity. Men wear trousers, women wear dresses. Sorry for being so "old fashioned" but I think if I was born to mother children, I'd have a big fat pair of tits. Instead of arguing on the interwebz with them
how does this answer anyone's questions? and still what IS your point??? and yes, i fully plan to enjoy estarte's day at home with imaginary bunnies and eggs. (and no, he and i are unrelated, have never met, and politely disagree on any number of fine points)
in other words your whole point is to demonize sweedish culture as somehow "creepy"? could this possibly have something to do with ideological fanatacism? and you're not being as "old fashioned" as you think. in the early middle ages men wore t-tunics, and tell a scottsman he's being "feminized" when he's tossing around telephone poles while wearing a kilt! aaand, can i bring popcorn for when you do? ("skirts", have been around a hell of a lot longer then trousers, and yes men wore them when weather didn't permit wearing a chaps and apron arrangement, or just blue paint) if i'm making an ass of myself, totally misinterpreting what you're saying, well i still don't get, what are you saying. "stupid laws" do of course exist, every place there are humans on this planet. wouldn't it make more sense though, for someone to disect and analyze those which were where THEY lived, and leave doing so of those where someone else lived, to those who live THERE? if there were a law, requiring men and women to dress differently and in specific ways, how would that not be just as stupid a law as whatever it is you have a problem with? i'd certainly call it one. and yes, i know there are places in this world where there are laws like that. one of the things that are still good about the u.s., is that it DOESN'T have one. and i pray it never will. as for houshusband, in a real sense, i was married to a woman for 13 years who was the bread winner, and i earned my keep by doing the housework. i see no reason not to be proud of having done so. i see role, in anything other then the biologically dictated one in making babies, of gender, as utterly and entirely assinign.
No, it is just very easy to tell someone it seems different in reality, so why not tell it. I'm not even from or in Sweden Very constructive reply alltogether. Usually says enough. You don't have to apologize for being old fashioned. Very honest, and indeed likely the source of why you accepted that funny generalisation of the swedish men so eagerly.
see? asmo and i are really very much not the same person at all. not that i'd want to make anyone feel bad. but my not wanting to make anyone feel bad is not about giving a rat about making friends. its about the kind of world we all have to live in. but i don't mind making some ONE feel bad, if that's what it takes to avoid creating conditions that make some MANY feel even worse.
This has become one seriously creepy thread. Sweden is clearly commiting suicide, in the throes of an extremism that clearly hates men and male interests. And we've got some males(?) here demanding the "right" for all men to wear dresses. Moving on, nature abhors a vacuum. Sweden's vacuum is its lack of masculinity or even masculine values in its national identity. And their solution? Welcome with open arms ANOTHER form of extremism. Islamist extremism that doesn't give a shit about women, in any way, shape or form. Man hating and hypocrisy together in the extreme. What a fucking joke Sweden has become! I'm out of this thread. I'll leave some of you to champion a "dick tax" or whatever extremist crap the fat Swedish feminazi pigs have got planned for this year.
i guess i might as well have some too. anyone acting like a dick having to pay a tax on it doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. as long as the revenue from it was spent on railways and other public transportation. or libraries and parks and other things that would be useful to everyone regardless of gender or economic status.
immigration laws, building code laws, copyright laws, possession of anything laws, not all of all of these, but if anyone wants to talk about really stupid laws, every time anyone attempts to legislate morality with a law, is a stupid law. because that's one kind of thing, no government nor process of creating laws, can ever get entirely right either. neither for that matter, does any religious belief that has a name for it.
