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Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by snakeyes, May 7, 2007.

  1. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    God is all around you. Hes everything, hes energy, hes love, hes the ultimate.

    I believe someone who DOESNT believe in God is blind. Does anybody beside me and Popularity see how AMAZING this earth we live on truly is? Yano how i KNOW theres a God? Because i see the trees, animals, humans, stars, trees, grass, ocean, planets, LOVE, sky, sun, etc. I got a question for yall, "Energy cannot be created nor destroyed", and we are beings of energy, so how were we created in the 1st place? When we die our soul lives on, like the law of physics say energy CANT be destroyed. We live forever. When God says that we our created in his "image" i believe hes talking about energy and love, thats what were made of, and i believe so is God. I love you God and cant wait to be with you.
     
  2. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Smokin

    Yes, for someone not to believe there is a direction to this massive complxity called our univese, is unusual
    But, that
    "God is all around you. Hes everything, hes energy, hes love, hes the ultimate."

    Is just uinformed tripe.

    Occam
     
  3. smokindude

    smokindude Senior Member

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    Well the thread asked what your definition of God was so i just gave my belief, i wasnt trying to state a fact, just my personal opinion about God.
     
  4. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    the person who only limits himself to one viewpoint is the blind one. if everybody closed their eyes and ears to foreign ideas, the world would be a boring ass place.



    as far as the original question, god is the spark of life that started this big huge chemical reaction we call existence. god is the human experience, and god is a metaphor for what is inside of ourselves.
     
  5. Krsna Bhakti

    Krsna Bhakti d-_-b JAMMING

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    Agreed.
    After what I have experienced, its now hard to imagine how somebody can claim that God is not real. But there was a time that I was athesit, so I do remember the position.
    But I would never put somebody down for voicing their opinion. If you havent experienced tapping into the Oneness of God's love and equality, then you arent ready. Simple as that, really.
     
  6. sexylilunicornbutt

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    [​IMG] My answer for "If God is everything, why not just refer to it as the Universe..."

    God, defined:

    1. It can easily be argued that the universe is perfect: It is perfectly what it is; there is nothing to compare it to.

    2. The universe is omnipotent; it possesses all power.

    3. The universe is omniscient; it possesses all knowledge/information.

    4. The universe, that which is, originates from itself. Being in constant flux, the universe is born again anew every moment as a consequence of itself.

    If God is everything, then we are God, peering within. We appear chaotic (so would the inner workings of our brains, from a small enough scale), but we know we have a purpose.

    I agree with snakeeyes that it is self-evident. You either see it and believe it or don't. It's the pinnacle of self-evident things, consciousness/being itself. It's why the hard problem of consciousness is so hard -- because it's fundamental and not something that can be conclusively explained as a result of matter.

    It is the perfect solution, and fortunately is also the truth. But, understandably, some people are afraid of being one in everlasting peace. No more violence, no more excuses to be hateful... It doesn't hurt at all. Join ussss...*eats your brains*

    Truth is a tyranny, after all. There's no escaping it.

    - sexylilunicornbutt

    Edit: Hip Forums needs a pantheist board.
     
  7. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    But if a person grew up in a state of loving god completely and totally and god loved them completely and totally, they would be one and unable to objectively separately distinguish each other, so god would not exist to that person.

    I am curious as to why you relate the feelings of oneness, love and equality with god? Those feelings/experiences do not require god/s.
     
  8. Krsna Bhakti

    Krsna Bhakti d-_-b JAMMING

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    Because in my opinion, God is everything, physical and spiritual. I dont mean a seperate entity in this case, I mean you and me :) There may very well be a source, in my view Krsna, but I realize that Im not the only person on this earth with an opinion.
     
  9. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    well i don't buy the need for infallability to exist, and equally don't buy the need for nontangable awairness not to. what's goofy is the way belief's seem to imply they've thought of everything when observably nothing could be further from the case.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  10. Chiranjeevi

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    I personally would the decribe what most people would call 'god' the omnipresent, never disappearing energy that flows in the universe. Energy can never be created nor be destroyed, it is the source of all that lives, exists (everything has some sort of energy)and connects everyone that lives, the animals, the trees, the earth and the universe. I cannot imagine there being a creature that can think on it's own or create, there is nothing that can prove that and all the books concerning it or never based on experience nor scientific fact.
     
  11. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Smokin

    I agreed with your premis
    But not with your conclusion.

    Forums are about arguement.
    If you cant stand the heat, dont enter the kitchen

    occam
     
  12. Razorofoccam

    Razorofoccam Banned

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    Themnax

    Greets my friend.

    Agree totally. Humans seem to think they 'know' they have a handle on things
    'when nothing could be further from the truth'

    4 Billion humans say they believe in something they were told existed.
    Cause THEY KNOW they never experienced or saw such.
    They have faith
    Not in god. but in the rhetorical accumen of the preacher. If they feel convinced.
    They are.

    Humans are stupid.
    They have reason but will use it mostly to avoid using it.
    This is called being a fool.

    occam
     
  13. Nikalaus

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    My humble appologies,

    I really hate to butt in... but...

    It must be 3,999,999.

    I believe in no God that someone else told me existed. My God I have found on by my own enlightenment.
     
  14. Nikalaus

    Nikalaus Member

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    Sweet views man ... I love it!
     
  15. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I've just read a bunch of atheist literature by Dawkins, Harris, Denning, and Stenger purporting to show that the things you mention--trees, animals, planets, sun, stars, etc., could all be the products of random processes and natural selection over gazillions of years in a universe of unfathomable dimensions and consisting of mostly nothing. I think they make a fairly plausible case from a strictly logical and scientific standpoint. In answer to scientists and philosophers who present evidence for a "finely tuned universe", I gather the atheists are saying "so what". If we changed the twenty-two constants to something else, life as we know it wouldn't exist, but there'd be something else. If we turned back time to the Cambrian and started over, evolution wouldn't produce the species we know and love today, but there'd be something else--probably not the two of us, maybe not an intelligent life form, but something else. I guess I'm a romantic at heart, and allow my emotions and intuition to get into the act. I agree that it's a "great, big wonderful world we live in" and any way you look at it, it's a miracle. If God made it, it's certainly a miracle. But if it all happened by lucky accident and could just as easily have been something else, it seems like even more of a miracle.
     
  16. rebelfight420

    rebelfight420 Banned

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    I think the question is actually Does it really matter if God exist?
     
  17. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    I guess it all depends on what kind of God we're talking about, and whether or not it matters to us.
     

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