Substances of Choice and Method

Your "mind," or nervous system, IS physical.

 

yeah, something usually happens. though I have heard of people not tripping on stuff that makes other people trip. it's a weird substance. sometimes hard to come by but it always comes around for me, but then again I live in the city.

 

If you're speaking of nervous system, then no, its not damaging... cell-wise it isn't.

If you're talking about mental well-being, well then that's a different thing.

 

I thought it was pretty clear from my earlier posts that's indeed what I'm talking about. LSD can be deeply damaging. It actually turns some people into hippies. I can't think of a worse fate, I'd take heroin overdose over that any day.

 

i've always wanted to try em but never really see em around until late fall, early winter. the last time they came around i waited til someone else tried em, and they had no effect. anyone ever made tea with em? shrooms i mean

 

How do you take the mushrooms? You eat them or cook them, or what?

 

Just eat them.

 

On a pizza, after the pizza is cooked. Mushrooms taste like poo, regardless, but this is the easiest way to stomach them, I've found. And I haven't seen any LSD since they came up with mandatory minumums... But it's definitely not safer than pot.

 

The 2 times I did shrooms I had them in a peanut butter sandwich, which wasn't too horrible.

 

yeah, or i've seen em inside of chocolate. pizza sounds nom nom though.

 

The DMT you are referring to is N,N-dimethyltryptamine. The DMT inside the toad is 5-MeO-DMT... very different molecules. N,N-DMT is the only thing worth seeking IMO.

 

Prolonged exposure to heat with destroy the active ingredients over time. You can safely make them into a tea if your like me and can't eat the mushrooms. For one, they are fucking nasty. And two, anytime I have the actual mushroom solids in my stomach, I puke for days on end...not good. So I make them into tea. I make my desired brew with high anti-oxidants in water that has steeped the mushrooms for 20-30 minutes. I throw away the solids afterward. I can even tolerate grinding them up into a smoothie. But can in no way actually eat the mushrooms without being really sick. I have never heard of anyone else being this extremely sensitive to them. Everyone I know chews them up like candy and away they go.

Like people have said though, you can cook them on pizza. I have even heard of people grilling them. But they always account for potency loss.

Either way, it's something I highly recommend to everyone in a safe outdoors environment. Just be careful and trust your instincts...as your instincts are the only that get you through the experience.

 

I know a number of people like that shady, I always make mine into tea. they upset my stomach sometimes, I never puke but my bf always gets really sick when we eat em straight. I stick them in the herb grinder then brew them with a strainer with some ginger peach tea bags and honey. orange tea is really good, too.

I've never tried 5-MeO but I always here it's not worth it.

 

lol...sorry for quoting and posting so many times. I just feel the need to correct incorrect information or in this case add necessary information to make it worth your while.

You have to be careful when consuming DMT orally. Smoking is a lot different. When you eat DMT normally, your MAO (look it up) is a bodily function (look it up to be sure, I am not doctor here) function that will prevent your body from ingesting DMT. It's a natural defense against the substance. So, you have to take an MAO inhibitor (MAOi) along with the DMT so your body will be able to absorb it. This tradition brew is called ayuhuasca used by shamans for thousands of years. It's know to induce violence episodes of puking, followed by a half a day lost in head space sorting through your inner demons...serious stuff. I don't recommend to anyone if they are looking to have fun. It's a very serious tool to explore your mind, body, and the universe.

Also note, that certain people cannot take MAOi's because of allergies or certain medications you might already be on. You can also die from eating certain things like Chocolate and Bananas while using MAOi's. If done safely, it is what is it, safe and totally non toxic. But it's will other additives or carelessness that will lead to injury or death. Be careful. There is a reason only shamans administer the stuff.

Like zilla said, you need to VERY VERY experience before considering doing DMT orally. I highly recommend smoking it first ad it will give you the "5 minute" version but it won't be anything near as intense as consuming it orally with an MAOi. I have eaten more hit of LSD and mushrooms individually more time than I count. I have smoke DMT...never eaten it. I still don't think I am ready for it. It's totally life changing...nothing to take lightly.

 

Good to know. I highly recommend anything with vitamin C and anti-oxidants. I will usually use lemon, green tea, and ginseng for energy plus honey for flavor. Mushrooms make me sleepy and wide awake at the same time. The tea kinda sucks once it gets cold, makes me gag.

Smoothies are my newest way of ingesting them. Last time I dropped a tab on my tongue and made a smoothie for the trail. We drank over the course of an hour.

Which leads me to another point. DON'T CHUG THE TEA! unless you really want to the world disappear before your very eyes. I never drink mine in any less time than 30 minutes but prefer an hour. Remember it's concentrates so you need to simulate your stomach digesting the active ingredients. If you chug it, then it will be one hell of a ride, believe me. But it will be shorter lived. But making into tea, you can gauge the effects much better. I find that a longer onset makes for a more peaceful experience. If you launch yourself into the universe, head first so to speak, i promise YOU WILL BE SCARED! lol

 

Yeah, I was talking about ayahuasca before. I guess I had it switched though, thought smoking it was more intense.

Also, question about doing shrooms with a friend who hasn't done them before. He's agreed that he really wants to do shrooms with me, but he doesn't really understand what they do at all. Like I started telling him about how we had to find a place like in the woods or outside somewhere to to it, and he started talking (only half jokingly) about how if you do them in nature you feel at one with nature (his words, not mine) so he would want to do them in some kind of industrial factory or warehouse so he could "be at one with the machines".

idk, he just doesn't seem like he has the right personality for them at all, so i don't really know if i want to do them with him. i have another friend who wants to do them with me, but he knows what to expect and is definitely doing it for the right reasons.

 

haha I was kidding a bit but yeah, you should know what you're in for and be something of a seasoned psychonaut before ingesting or even smoking DMT.

As far as MAOi's go.. I would recommend a natural MAOi like St. John's wort over a prescribed anti-depressant, but that's just me...

basically, do your research. erowid is a great database for trip reports etc and you should learn all you can about any substance before using it. it makes for a better and safer trip.

 

shady, do you do a second steep? like use the dregs from the first steep and do another batch of weaker tea as you drink the first? it prolongs the trip beautifully

diton- all I can say is, sometimes people will surprise you. people I thought wouldn't be able to handle it were incredible, people I thought would be awesome were frightening, and people I never expected to become close with became my best friends.

 

na...never wasted my time all the actives should be out in 30 minutes. (Not saying this is the case with your here but it's been my logic as to why I never tried but....) Saying a second steep to me adding to the trip is like me eating a roll and not feeling anything at all, while some jackass next to me rolling hard. I would say placebo if you asked me.

But hey, it might be worth another shot if you say it's worth it. Why not just steep the original batch for twice as long? What's the difference? Plus I usually grow my own mushrooms so making the batch more potent usually isn't a big deal.

 

Yeah, I spent the better part of several years making every effort I could to turning people on to psychedelics that wanted them....always for free. It got to the point I getting really depressed because I would go out of my way to set up a similar experiences that I always have, but every time I was always let down. People not appreciating it, bad trips, or just a waste of time. Anymore, I only give them out to people I absolutely know 100% that they will react in the way I want. It's always out in nature, all day or night preparing for it, then another day or reflection. When I trip I am gone for days rendering my body unable to eat or do much. It's a trip for reason... I only take those along that I know can follow because I have too many experiences where giving them to people just wasn't responsible.