No, suicide isn't "technically" wrong. But it would hurt the people around you so I guess in a sense it is. Only a selfish person would commit suicide, ultimately it's your own choice.
Said doctor deserves some "publicity"- if lawsuits don't mitigate the circumstance... I'm sorry Daniel's uncle had to go through so much crap and reading this abbreviated summary does nothing to improve my general outlook on the medical establishment (doctors, hospitals, insurance and drug companies...) and people wonder why I'm obsessed with exercise and natural foods... I'll be damned if the quality my life is going to rest in the hands of a system whose primary purpose is redistribute wealth by enrolling me in a costly condition maintenance program.
Personally I have had moments where I have thought: Fack this...I can't get over this. But have. Perhaps a little e.g as to what I mean: Sometimes if you have been drinking and you do something stupid...the next day you think: Oh my god, what will people think/say. Most people are mortified and get a horrible feeling inside. Most people forget or it all works itself out, people laugh it off, life goes on. Imagine if that feeling was multiplied by three and nobody came upto you and laughed it off, or nothing you said or did made that feeling go away. Some people face that situation and can't "deal with it", imo. It isn't the "easy way out", imo. It is the only way some people feel they will find peace. I imagine it is the last option...not the first.
i hope to live long enough that when i'm really old and tired and ready to go, i will be able to make that decision for myself. in some such cases, people literally just shut down and die in their sleep without any need for drugs or other external influence. if a draft were instituted and i got called to war and got in a particularly tight spot, i'd rather commit suicide than become a prisoner of war. if a woman happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time and is facing a potentially terrible situation at the hands of multiple men, i would understand preferring to take her own life than dealing with the trauma and potentially physically crippling violence which was eminent. i dont understand someone killing themselves because they got bad grades and their parents put too much pressure on them. i dont understand killing yourself because you're lonely or heartbroken. i dont understand killing yourself because of debt. or rather, i do understand them and hell i've contemplated a couple of them more than once, but i'd never do it. in this case it is only for the supremely weak. i just don't feel it's worth it. but i dont feel its immoral, just lame. and again, i do think its immoral if you're leaving other people with your problems, or if you're creating new problems for others. unless the problems or grief you leave them with are less than they would have if you lived.
so you'd rather be decapitated for some radical religious propaganda film aired worldwide than take a quick bullet to the brain at your own hands? to each his own. i'd think its more of a hippie thing to say that i'd rather die than go to war. hell, i'd go if there was no way out but death...but if i was about to be captured by some radical terrorist cell, hell no i dont want to live through that.
That's why I said I don't think I could judge someone who suicides. Because I haven't had feelings like that, because I haven't, and I hope to never, be in a situation like that. But logic tells me it's the easier way out. We generally take the easiest method, unless we have an ulterior motive we'll take the easier option. I don't understand why if someone was given a choice of two things to take the harder and more damaging option. It must've been easier and I never said it was easy.
You have to realize, that if there is a draft... you don't have to be in the combat forces. I'm sure they'll find something better for a smart guy like you to do. But yeah, I sure wouldn't want to be decapitated by sand dwellers. That's a pretty damn extreme scenario though.
it is, but hell even in normal wars POWs don't get anywhere close to decent treatment. if you're fighting loosely organized ultra-radical terrorist groups (and unarmed grandmothers and children in the street) then you sure as hell can't expect good treatment at the hands of your captors. this is just a hypothetical, anyway.
Nope, not to me. I'm stupid. It just seemed like you were putting your nose into somebodys business - where it had not been asked for - and not caring about the people left behind after somebody had commited suicide. I just don't find myself in that particular predicament very often.
Well yeah, I didn't really get that you were talking about such an extreme scenario off your original post. It's like saying that I'd rather commit suicide than have my body consumed alive by fat people. You can always find something that will justify it.
Morality flies right out the window once that trigger is pulled, making it irrelevant. All in all, a person who is seriously about to commit suicide never really thinks about the consequences.
