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I could be stupid, but I thought he was talking about stalin, what with the large mustache

Something about the idea of concealing stalins stache made me giggle.

 

who/ what is LaRouche?

sure obama was born in america, but he grew up in indonesia. do you know anything about indonesia and their political history? i'd be watching my back if i were actually american.. there are worse years to come yet.

*she* was talking about neither hitler or stalin. either of them albino? either of them still alive? i was talking about tom marvolo riddle.

 

I know this is gonna get me flamed but I like obama. I dont agree with some shit he's pulled but overall I like him. Our country was going to hell before he came to office so really whats the difference now? Were all fucked and were all gonna die....but not any time soon cuz we have mandated health plans to keep us alive a bit longer. lol

 

i like obama too actually. as far as appearances, and relative to other politicians, he's an absolute saint.

 

Ahoy Bro ... on this point I agree with you 101%

Jah Live!

 

alex jones has many documentaries. even many on Obama. i have watched most of them and i like alex jones for his courage.

and of course Obama is nice in appearance.. he's a smooth talker.. all that stuff. they groomed him because he could trick the public much easier than an old unattractive guy

 

I'm afraid you got it wrong.

Jews did 9/11

 

LaRouche = some dick old democrat bastard whose been in jail for the past 20 years who claims Obama's health care reform is equivalent to Hitler's euthansia program. Bothers me cause some crazy old guy has been hanging around my college trying to get people to sign a protest about impeaching Obama... I hate political radicals who have no true proof of anything.


I'm pretty pro-Obama. And I'm tired of Republicans who are just pissy that McCain didn't get elected... he chose Palin as vp for christ's sake. Of course he didn't get elected. She's f*cking crazy end of story.

And I see no issue with Obama being raised in Indonesia. He was only there for part of his childhood, and whatever their governmental system, I just see it as broadening his horizons and hopefully he doesn't think that the US should get involved with ALL world affairs.

I pretty much hate the stereotypical American thinking that we are superior. we're not. get the fuck over it and stay out of other country's business. Unless we actually have PROOF and a reason to go help out, besides oil...

stalin was communist, which is very anti-fascism. Hitler and Stalin hated each other for this reason.

 

You do realize that Obama automatically 100% without a doubt in the entire freaking universe gave up his natural born citizenship (EVEN IF HE WAS BORN IN THE US ORIGINALLY) when he gained citizenship in Indonesia?

Indonesia, at the time Obama wanted to go to school there, was at war. This meant that if you wanted to go to school there, you had to be a citizen. Since Indonesia was at war, you could not have dual citizenship. Meaning... Obama did not ever have the requirements to become U.S. president.

There were law suits filed against Obama on this issue. Since people grooming Obama had judges in their back pocket they just prolonged the court dates requiring Obama to produce his birth certificate and other items of proof... even though it did not matter since everyone knew Obama went to school in Indonesia and forfeited his ability to become president since then anyways.

On top of that you had his grandma on tv proclaiming that he was a natural born citizen of Kenya. You had his sister saying he was born in one hospital in Hawaii in an interview. Then you had Obama himself saying a different hospital in Hawaii. See when you tell the truth your story is consistent but when you're lying you're all over the map.

I in no way support Barack Obama as a president. He's been lying from the very beginning and will definitely continue to do so in his remaining days as president. He's also the type of guy that pretends to be for the people, but is definitely for the elites and their agenda.

 

have you read any of his books?

 

Oh, like Obama writes good books or something?
The Audacity of Obama being a deceiver or something?

 

Even if he was a dual citizen, that wouldn't preclude him from becoming President.

Article II, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

 

he's a pretty good writer. I'm reading his first book now. It was published in 1995, which is good because it gives you a look into his life before he ever thought of running for pres. I'm not really for or against Obama, I'm just suggesting you read into him a bit.

 

Only if you ask a commie or a fascist. And I have some communist tendencies. But the fact is that both systems start the same way, end the same way, and are controlled a very similar way. One has an axe and a bundle of sticks, one has a red star. From there on out they're just the same, including the fact that both have been known to pull the same Orwellian tricks, using the other (identical) side as the required external enemy.

 

i see no proof for this.

and as vig has mentioned, the constitution doesn't say shit about having multiple citizenships. just has to be born here.

which it has been proven that he was born in Hawaii... or trust me, he wouldn't be president. If that shit was allowed then they'd have elected Swartchzenneger by now (i butchered his name... eh oh well).

true communism beliefs can not exist in a fascism government structure. it's only in practice that the two look related as they are mostly controlled by one guy who takes over everything (dictator).

the core philosophies of both are totally different though.

 

fun thread.

natty: what do you mean indonesia was at war while obama was there? where did you get your information about indonesians not being able to be dual citizen?

roorshack: how do both communism and fascism begin and end, and how are they controlled in the same way?

 

Nah, you got it all wrong ... that's not communism you talking about, that's state capitalism / socialism ...

The USSR was never communist, the term communist was just bent by the US, particularly during the ColdWar.

Communism is a 'stateless environment with decentralised communities that control their production and resources'

When the word communism is used correctly, it actually means Anarchism, thus the use of the term Anarcho-Communism, etc ... read Kropotkin, Bakunin, Malatesta, etc ... even Marx

Unfortunately after all these years since the ColdWar has supposedly ended, communism is still used in the wrong context ... I say supposedly because NATO is still around

One Love!

 

Obama should remove the cuban embargo

 

oops wrong thread

 

Full Documentary on Obama called "October Surprise"

I will be quoting Phillip Berg from his video where he makes his case against Obama in the video mentioned above.

Phillip J. Berg is an attorney of law. Former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania. A life long democrat, 31 years as a committee personal. Chairmen of the Democratic party in Montgomery county, Pennsylvania. A member of democratic state committee for 8 years. A candidate on the democratic ticket throughout Pennsylvania for the office of governor and United States Senate. Practiced law for 37 years and has been licensed to practice throughout the common wealth of Pennsylvania including the Supreme Court. Also the Federal Court System which is the eastern district of Pennsylvania, the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, and licensed to practice before the United States Supreme Court.

August 21st, 2008 Phillip J. Berg filed a lawsuit against Senator Barack Obama.

He claimed that Barack Obama was not a natural born citizen of the United States, and therefore ineligible of presidency.

The case required Barack Obama to present any birth documents that could prove otherwise.

He never complied.

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At the time of the lawsuit; On the Obama campaign website the certification of lie of birth has also been placed on factcheck.org which checks documents to make sure they are true and correct documents. They said it was a true and correct document but that's very funny because the document if you look down there are two different documents that were posted. On factcheck they had a seal, on the document that was posted on the Obama campaign website there was not a seal on the document. Factcheck.org is owned by Annenberg of Chicago. This is a significant fact because this is an organization that Obama sat on the board for a number of years dispersing up to 60 million dollars a year. So you can imagine there's a little conflict of interest there.

I believe Obama could not produce a birth certificate because the birth certificate that he would produce would indicate that he was not a natural born citizen of the United States.

At the time; Barack Obama's paternal grandmother who still lives in Kenya was going around telling everyone that her grandson was going to be president of the United States and that she was so proud because she was in the delivery room IN KENYA with Barack Obama's brother and sister (half brother and half sister) when he was born in 1961.

His half sister Maya Soetoro was interviewed and she stated that he was born in one hospital in Hawaii. When Barack Obama was interviewed, he stated that he was born in another hospital in Hawaii.

So we've got statements from three different people claiming Barack Obama was born in three different places.

But wait a minute; none of this hospital stuff matters at all. It doesn't matter if he was born in Hawaii or not! EVEN IF HE WAS born in the United States in Hawaii as a natural born citizenship, he lost his citizenship.

I know you must be thinking, how can you lose your United States citizenship?

Well, what happened is that Barack Obama's mother divorced the father. She got re-married to Lolo Soetoro from Indonesia. They got married in the United States. In Barack Obama's book he states, "My step-father went back to Indonesia before I did and when I got there I went immediately to school there." He spent four years in school in Indonesia.

Significant at that time was; Indonesia was at war. The only people who could go to school in Indonesia had to be a citizen of Indonesia. So therefore his step-father had to do one of two things to get his son into school in Indonesia; he either had to adopt him or he had to acknowledge him. If he did either one, that's how he went to school in Indonesia.

There are records from the school that Barack Obama went to in Indonesia. In his records it indicates that his name was Barry Soetoro, his nationality Indonesian, and his religion Islam. That's how he went to school there, Indonesia at the time did not provide for dual citizenship's so he was then a citizen of Indonesia.

The only thing he could of done at that time to come back to the United States was to go through Immigration. I don't believe Obama went through Immigration because if he did he would have became a naturalized citizen, not natural born, naturalized, not natural born, naturalized, not natural born, naturalized at that point EVEN IF HE WAS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.

A naturalized citizen is not a natural born citizen and cannot become president of the United States.

Not only did Obama dismiss this case under legal technicalities, which are proper, but the Democratic National Committee joined in with Obama to dismiss this case.

This is an outrage. Why is this an outrage? The Democratic National Committee has an obligation to the citizens of this country to send out qualified candidates that meet ALL of the credentials.

When this lawsuit was filed; if they didn't know about it before.. they knew it at the time they were served. I feel they had an obligation to go to Obama and state "produce credentials to us." And if you can't produce them to us, they should have taken the next step and that is remove him from the ballot and substitute a candidate.

So for the Democratic National Committee to join together with Obama to hide from the public facts which should be presented is a disgrace.

On the flip side you had John McCain who was questioned where he was born because he was born in Panama. What did he do? He immediately released his birth certificate and his medical records.

I have a conviction that Barack Obama is not my president, he is not a natural born citizen, and he is not my commander and/or chief.

P.S. it's also been documented that Barack Obama spent $1.7 million dollars in legal fees having all his records sealed. Why would he go through all this, spend all this money, and not put up for those who've asked for the records. Reason-something to hide, something he does not want America to see, or just the plain fact that he was not qualified to become president.