Support the troops... why?

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by soulrebel51, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    I agree almost entirely.. although I am not sure about the connection with the Tsunamis. I think maybe that would have been a little more directed to America and the western world, but that I can see as no more than coincidence wherever it struck. I do find soo much about America that I really do not like, but I think the American hatred is turned to prejudice by some people, to make statements against the American population as a whole is not fair on the many Americans who are within a system they are failing to be able to influence in any real way.

    America as powerful as it is, does not hold the keys to every door, British politics has simply not been an obstruction, we (uk) always fall in line, Tony Blair has just lacked any real balls and has been a push over in every sense of the word, he might as well have joined Bushes crew of rednecks... and that's from a supposedly left wing party with it's roots in socialism. Not that anybody here would have the stupidity to accuse 'New' Labour of having a socialist thought within the front benches.
     
  2. Smerfish

    Smerfish Senior Member

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    I dont care what country you go to its going to have its flaws, but America's main flaw is a big ego... and noseyness..... we're like that really popular bitch in school who just likes to flaunt her sexy ass.....and makes everyone dislike he..... as pathetic as that sounds it makes sense though doesnt it?
     
  3. geckopelli

    geckopelli Senior Member

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    The world's fucked up courtesy of British policies of a century ago.

    The hate the ignorant have for americans is best summed up in one word: ENVY!

    If the rest of the world would stop whinning and start DOING, we'd be a hundred times better off. Imangine The US if it hadn't spent WAY TOO MUCH on european spwaned problems for nearly 100 years!

    Leave us alone! Let the arab wackos blow up british buildings! WE didn't dig the suez canal!
     
  4. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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  5. USNavyDeadHead

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    You'll die for peace? And what do you propose? Are you going to be like the students in China years ago and stand in front of a tank? Americans that are against war have some valid points but most of you have no balls. You talk a lot of shit but what do you do? NOTHING!!! You sit there and bitch on your computer or in the coffe house or on your cozy little campus. Those of you that are really committed wave your little clever signs or partake in a candlelight vigil or something but what do you really do? At least those of us that are in the service have committed and are putting our commitment into ACTION. Show me you can do something other than shoot off your mouths.

    Try dousing yourself in Kerosene and lighting yourself on fire like they did in vietnam. Morally commited people in Southeast Asia knew how to put on a God-damned demonstration! Most of you are just afraid that the draft will be reinstated and you might have to put your ass on the line.
     
  6. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    Envy? Envy of what, our cultures and standard of living our approximately equal. This isn't an issue of racism or patriotism or nationalism. I despise Canada's army and soldiers equally, I dislike our shallow consumer culture (mostly imported from the US, but still) just as much. I'm just moderately glad that at least our government only steals and kills our own people.

    Explain exactly how much harder you've worked then anyone in a third world country. America's (and consequently your's) position right now resulted from a combination of circumstances: the large amount of resources you have namely, the relatively easy time you had conquering your native population, the amount you've stolen from other nations, the regimes you've propped up, and an advantage of technology. I wouldn't be too proud of a history written at the expense of beaten slaves and native ways. At any rate, if you grew up in a desert you'd be the same camel-jockey you have such contempt for.

    No, but you did arm Saddam, push him to war with Iran, then come back and kick his ass, fund Israel, arm and prop up the Al-Quaeda regime.
     
  7. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Harsh words considering the reason Canada's remained soverign for 60 years is because of the US. Your nations defense policy aginst soviet agression was don't bomb us or the US will bomb you.

    You're whole country is americas culture, its the same thing.

    It's easy for you to claim things like that because nobody depends on Canada for anything.

    But important countries are called to intervene all the time.
     
  8. Jointman69

    Jointman69 High Nigga Pie

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  9. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    As far as I know the only country that's threatened Canada's sovereignty since the start of the confederation has been the US. And then we burned down your white house.

    Which is so much different then what I was saying. I just don't like it.

    Like America helped the Ukraine election? Oh wait, that was Canada.
    Like America was called to intervene in Iraq? By who, the UN? The Iraqi People?
    Like Canada was called to intervene in Iraq by America? Oh wait, we didn't.
    Like America was called to intervene in Cuba at the Bay of Pigs? Yeah, tons of Cuban support for that.
    Like America intervened in World War 2? Oh wait, you got attacked.
    Want more examples? I can list dozens.

    America isn't an altruist, it "intervenes" for its own benefit. Get off the high horse.
     
  10. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    You mean the british. Canda wasn't involved, and was mot a country in 1812, and never fought for its own freedom, England just kinda decided you weren't worth it

    Maybe you should google Canadas nuclear policy and read how directly it says if ever attacked your allies will respond with tactical nuclear strikes.

    We're your ally... although it doesn't sound like you care for canada that much either. :rolleyes:

    How about When we were begged to keep peace in somalia, or how we're being begged to stay in Thailand and Indonesia for Tsunami aid. We're beeing begged by the DRC to intervene in the Congo, and pleaded with to go into the Sudan.

    Taiwan is desperate for our help right now.

    Once again, nobody depends on Canada for help, so it's easy for you to come to shallow conclusions.

    It intervens for many reasons, sometimes noble, sometimes materialistic, but even when it is materialsitic, we only go after scum anyway.

    Not like we're going to war with Canda for beer or anything, because Canada isn't a hellish despotism.
     
  11. WE1

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    Its an all volunteer army. They joined so they can blow up shit and kill people in the name of the United States..:(
     
  12. Co0kiezGurl

    Co0kiezGurl Banned

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    Gah I hate threads like this....

    My husband is on a humanitarian mission right now, not in Iraq, but you probably hate him too.....hey, spooner, are you the kid that me and hubby got in a bitch match with after saying you wished death on the troops? Blah. I'm not fighting this one, I just wanna say a big fuck you to all y'all who have something against my husband just because he joined the airforce (and not to kill people dammit).

    Support the troops because they are people....people in an unfortunate situation and dammit they just wanna come home safe.

    And support doesn't mean money either. It means morale, and love from those of us back home who miss them dearly, and cookies, and letters, and pictures, and comfort, and just having a feeling that people back home do care and want them home safely. That's what they really want. I know my hubby couldn't give two fucks about any money coming his way right now. He wants me to be ok, and he wants to know he's loved, and that other people want him to be ok too, and he really wants to come home...but he's doing his job, and he's helping people over there, and I'm damn proud of him for it.

    And I do NOT support this fucking war either...never fucking did...and neither does the hubby.

    Gah...just fuck it...y'all don't care.
     
  13. DrSpaceman

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    5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (your sig)
     
  14. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    No, I didnt didnt join simply to blow stuff up and kill people. I accepted the possibility, and will deal with your scorn. Both Jerry Garcia and Jimi Hendrix served in the US army.
     
  15. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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  16. Goddess Om

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    I think of it like this - "Support The Troops" is a catch-phrase used as a form of propaganda by the Bush government. It's aim is to stop people from protesting against the war (oh you nasty people, you hate the soldiers etc) and it aims to keep them over there fighting this disgusting, immoral war.
    The government couldn't give a fuck about the troops. It sent them in there for oil, money and power. It thinks them quite easily expendable.
    We've been through all this before, many times. The soldiers were brought back from Vietnam. We know they are only people, often very good people, who believe the lies the government feeds them, and we don't hate them or wish them harm. But the point is just because you want to "be nice to the troops" you can't pretend that this war is ok...or justify continuation of a dirty, illegal war.
    Yeah, we love em... they are our brothers and sisters too. But for fuck's sake bring them home!
    May Peace Prevail
     
  17. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    Just because Hendix was in the Army doesn't really make an argument for or against it, it's too easy for famous people to fit an image that is wanted for them by their audience.... And just for the record I am not part of any troop hating, there are no doubt a lot of wankers in the miltary as there are in all walks of life, maybe a lot of them are attracted by "The Services", but people come from all sorts of backgrounds and influences and will quite likely get into things due to such influences before having made there own minds about who they are... we all grow up with prejudices of some kind instilled in us, very often while young we are too trusting in what those around us say, it's only experience of life that alters our minds over time.
     
  18. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    Yes you be right MR Spaceman! Hmmm I wonder how you knew that! ;)
     
  19. Mr Mojo Risin'

    Mr Mojo Risin' How are you 'now'?

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    lol, well yeah, we all have that at school to some extent... but ya right, America does promote that sort of attitude rather than discourage it, too many pervert males in the tabloid press is also the cause of promoting them, and those that buy the papers too.....

    It's funny that Americas international image is the same as that school girls with the fine ass, colder and wetter and the top with a hot ass (talking geographically of course!)

    I believe someone stated that the rest of the world is Jealous of America?? Well that's also what the bimbo hot ass school girl thinks, but in reality anybody with any intellect can see she is dull and ugly from the centre out, eyes that are cold and self serving. Nothing much to be jealous of, except those hot Californian beaches (her ass) but then you only shit of your ass do you not?
     
  20. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I never said anything like that. Our military should have one purpose -- defending our country. Our government has made it obvious it has only one care -- they only give a damn about their own wealth and power. Too bad the rest of the world's leaders are blind money-hungry people too.. the U.S. should not be trusted for anything, even for humanitarian missions.
    And anybody who kills anybody is a murderer.

    Actually, they have blown up schools and hospitals; schools and hospitals which were later found to have know insurgents present whatsoever. I wonder why they did that... :rolleyes:

    It would be both, but the Iraqis would be defending their own country... not going invading another country and destroying their culture and killing their people.


    George W. Bush himself called this the war that "will not be over in our lifetimes". Decades of more fighting either way...
     

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