Support the Troops?

Discussion in 'Protest' started by skip, Jan 30, 2007.

  1. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    and yeah, I support what the weather underground did as well. COINTELPRO can suck my dick.
     
  2. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    Um HOW? do tell!!! Looking at the shirt, it seems to be. impeach bush/ viva chavez?? come on!!

    teach me how it is NOT hypocritical. I am listening...
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Don't you get it? That's what he wants us to be, ineffective, obviously.

    The deal on all the edgy stuff protesters are doing is to GET MEDIA ATTENTION.

    From what I've seen of the PATHETIC US media since Bush took office is that they now REFUSE to estimate the size of protests.

    Or if they do, they write their stories early in the morning, before the protests even get going, and say "hundreds of protesters", when a few hours later tens of thousands showed up.

    The US media only publish tightly cropped pictures of just a few protesters holding signs, NEVER showing the full extent of the crowds actually protesting. You don't see big crowd photos in American media. Oh, but they DO show up in Canadian and European media!

    In fact there was recently a protest in Mexico City when Bush & the new Mexican president were meeting, where HUNDREDS (could've been thousands) of protesters hurled rocks and bottles at the US embassy.

    People were injured, there were about a hundred arrests, but there wasn't a SINGLE report of this activity in American media, and precious few in the Mexican media (I only found one story in a dozen major mexican media sites).

    So the point is unless you do something REALLY dramatic anymore the US MEDIA WILL IGNORE YOUR PROTESTS.

    That only leads activists into taking even more dramatic and violent actions so their protests are noticed. Next thing you know we'll have bands of American terrorists creating violent events just to get some kind of reaction.

    Is this what you prefer?

    If not, they you should be taking the media to task, not the protesters. If the media actually reported these events like they used to, then maybe "tasteful" protests would do the trick, but unfortunately in a world where our leaders control the media, it no longer works.

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  4. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    pointless to even try [​IMG]

     
  5. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Walter Cronkite called the police and the Chicago establishment FASCISTS right on the air,when the police rioted in 1968 at the Democratic convention.The police beat anyone within reach then and the media reported it and showed it on TV --not anything close to what these right-wing, bought and sold, talking heads would EVER consider now.The media are disgusting sell-outs.This country has been ruined by crooked ,lying thieves,aided and abetted by the "media".Hopefully,the era of the republicrooks is almost over.
     
  6. Loveminx

    Loveminx Sports Racer

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    Protesting isn't as effective these days.
    The media isn't on our side...

    And I agree that protesters could be a lot more tasteful without swears and pointless anger. "kill bush" and remarks like that make everyone look immature and idiotic.

    And getting violent is out of the question when you're protesting against violence.

    So, now what?
     
  7. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    All of the major networks in the U.S. didn't cover any of the peaceful demonstration parade against Bush during the 2004 RNC convention, except CSPAN.

    Fox didn't cover any of it except for a couple minutes where the dragon float caught on fire. 'Look at those horrible people'.

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  8. Haid

    Haid Member

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    Its because these people are leftists.

    Nobody covered the pro America demonstrations either. The fact is no one watches protests on tv thus they have bad ratings. If you want to spot the stuff that gives them good ratings that would be who fathered Anna Nichols baby.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    The voter and consumer has a responsibility to be informed.
     
  10. mandell

    mandell Banned

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    Please tell me how waving a peace sign will stop a deranged person from inflicting violence on another human being.

    Inaction itself is a form of violence, because in effect, you have colluded with the violent person in the perpetuation of violence.

    The Iraq war is like a cyclic loop. You cut off support for the troops which is part of that loop. They won't have a choice but to come home. This is what they did to end the Vietnam War. They cut off the funding. The troops were home in no time from a war they had no business getting involved in to begin with. Very similar to this present Iraq war.
     
  11. Loveminx

    Loveminx Sports Racer

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    The point is not to stop the violent person, but to get media attention to the masses that believe this war has gone on long enough.

    I wish we could cut off the money flow, but they really don't care how the people funding the war feel. Our money, but we get no say.
     
  12. mandell

    mandell Banned

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    Yes, there have been efforts, past and current to speak out against the war, even against blind support for these troops that have appeared in the media.


    Warriors and wusses
    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein24jan24,0,4137172.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions


    Unfortunately, almost 2 terms under George W backed by his Neo-Con, religious right-wing agenda has basically dumbed down, the average American capacity to think intelligently.

    It's going to take a long time, lots of effort to undo the damage that this incompetent administration has created.
     
  13. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    You really overestimate his abilities. Most of the dumb ones who follow him blindly were dumb long before he walked through the White House doors. The rest are worthless sheep who believe whatever pablum you spoonfeed them, intelligence notwithstanding.
     
  14. Loveminx

    Loveminx Sports Racer

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    Just let the troops come home now.
    He better not veto the withdrawel. >_<

    "The Senate on Thursday defied a veto threat by President George W. Bush and joined with the House of Representatives in backing a timetable for withdrawing American combat troops from Iraq. "
    -Reuters
     
  15. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    It will be vetoed, no question.
     
  16. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well if he vetos it, then it is BUSH who is not supporting the troops! :)
     
  17. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    agreed
     
  18. Haid

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    What is it going to accomplish to run? You think leaving a country in a cival war is the answer? Is this for the good of the people? Of coarse Bush will veto it and he should, I am sick of this country not following through with anything. We have already spent the money, we should damn sure see it out.
     
  19. paulfreespirit

    paulfreespirit Senior Member

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    :D their coming to take me away their coming to take me away ..........tossoffalot do yer jerk .......ITS AN ILLEGAL WAR ....iraq today the world tommorow without any resistance ..:patriot:......ps do yer get out much ?
     
  20. jagerhans

    jagerhans Far out, man. Lifetime Supporter

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    ok, it's not my country, but let me remark that with this mindset you'd never retreat from Viet-Nam too . If money is the concern, dont know how much you value the human lives of soldiers that a retreat could spare , but you can try and ask the money back from George W. Bush.Rumors are that his family is a rich one. also, remaining in iraq is useless because you will be finally defeated like in 'Nam . US soldiers cant win because they know there is no reason for them to fight and die day after day. because they are hated by iraqi civilians. because their opponents are strongly motivated. and because lies dont lead to anything good.
     

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