Supreme Court to Obama: Respond about Birth Certificate by Dec 1st. Thank God

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Confederate Rebel, Nov 9, 2008.

  1. Confederate Rebel

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  2. real_large

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    In your link, CR, the certificate on the left (which I'm assuming is the real Obama certificate) says place of birth was Honolulu.

    The certificate on the right (which is someone else's, probably just to show what the long-version looks like) shows item 7C as county, state, or foreign country of birth. Assuming the left-hand certificate is legit, wouldn't item 7C match it, by saying Honolulu?

    Also, I notice that at the bottom of the left one it states: "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

    I'm confused. How could page 2 contradict page one on birth location? If it does, it would have to be a screw-up.
     
  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    We've been though this for months, Hawaii does not make the long versions available on request, hence the version we all saw, go look up your facts.

    Obama was born in Kenya
    Elvis works at a gas station in Reno
    Hitler is alive in Argentina
     
  4. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    god damn,,wouldnt that make hitler the oldest person on earth??
     
  5. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Real? It's 2 different Birth Certificates ~ one of which is the Obama online 'proof' one, the other, someone elses Birth Certificate, just as an example of what the long version looks like.

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    MadCap? Are you saying that for the past 2 years, he has been unable to get a copy of his Birth Certificate?

    No way, no how.

    As a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, can you really see the state of Hawaii refusing to give him a certified copy of his Birth Certificate???

    Anyway, some of the things i've been reading have said that there is no Birth Certificate for him in Hawaii, because he was born Barry Soetoro in Kenya.

    i guess we'll see, but it's flippin' amazing that he won't just fork it up like any NORMAL person would do...
     
  6. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    It doesn't really surprise me that he hasn't shown his Birth Certificate.

    What after being called, Black, Muslim, Socialist, Marxist, Liberal, Atheist, etc... I would feel the same way Obama does.
     
  7. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Well, let's see...

    Then i don't guess that places that you go to work and all require ID?

    i had to get a copy of mine for my first driver's license, and to get into school. If i had said, "Oh, well, sorry about that, but you'll have to SUE me to get that information, BUT ~ ha ha ha ~ i expect to take the job/enrollment stuff until you can finally use up all of the court's in the lands time with my *cough*cough* frivilous flippin' lawsuits, until we get to the Supreme Court. (what the ...?!?)

    Yeah. They'll be laughing their asses off as they call Security to escort you off the premises.

    People don't do weird, flaky, suspicious things when they DON'T have anything to hide ~ they gladly give ID to any authority (Police, Doctors, etc.) when asked.

    Added to the fact that he saw fit to allow a forgery to be put up on his website (and please don't say he didn't know it was there), it amounts to a pack of lies and a cover-up.

    And if it is? Lord, help us all.
     
  8. SunLion

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    I'm confused. How could page 2 contradict page one on birth location?

    I'll stay out of the debate at hand, but many (perhaps even most) birth certificates contain errors. My own gives wrong info on place of birth, one of my two kids' BC gives a wrong place of birth, and my aunt told me that hers gives a wrong place of birth as well. Official documents may be "official," but anyone who has done genealogy research can tell you that they're often plagued with errors.
     
  9. maryjohn

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    :rolleyes:
     
  10. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    That is interesting.

    Has there been a case you can think of that the Country of Birth was incorrect?

    With Hawaii a newly admitted state to the union (Aug. 21, 1959), i can imagine that, at first, there may have been some confusion about the SOP's, but they were a possession long before that, and the change-over should have been pretty easy. (Famous last words! ;) )

    However, the actual evidence remains the crux of the matter ~

    if this joker has NEVER had a certified copy of his Birth Certificate, how did he get into school? How did he get a driver's license? How did he get a social security number?

    HOW DID THE DEM NAT'L CONV ALLOW HIM TO GET THIS FAR WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO CHECK OUT HIS CREDENTIALS?!?!?

    ~> SunLion, thanx for the info ~ if he is able to produce a BC with some minor errors, i'll be much less likely to jump on them! ;)
     
  11. maryjohn

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    you do realize that even if Obama had been born in Kenya, he would still be a natural born US citizen, don't you?

    In order to dispute his citizenship, you have to dispute his parents' identity.

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama is your next president.
     
  12. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Have you by any chance seen this, MJ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

    Whether you like it or not, Philip Berg is trying to protect the Dem Nat'l Conv, AND THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, and has been trying to GET these documents since August 21st. (No telling how long he's been investigating ~ i couldn't find a ref for any date before the lawsuit was filed.)

    Something i find rather amusing that P.Berg said:

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.ph...es-not-meet-the-qualifications-for-president]

    This guy isn't coming off as some sort of crazed lunatic, at all...

    Also, that's the first i've heard that it was his SISTER's birth certificate that was used for the forgery.

    What a mess...
     
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    yes fyrenza, he does come across as a lunatic.

    He also comes across as someone who knows he will lose, but will get huge sums of money on the speaking tour from white supremacist and other far right groups.
     
  14. Fyrenza

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    No, i don't realize ...,

    because there is a bunch of controversy about THAT, also.

    Regardless, the lawsuit goes into a little more than just the birth certificate issue ~

    it also opens up the door to his Indonesian citizenship, and the fact that, in order to be able to go to school, his step-father had to adopt/acknowledge him, and when that happened,

    he lost his American citizenship,

    and regardless of anything else, can ONLY be considered a Naturalized Citizen, whom is INELLIGIBLE to either run for, OR SIT, as the President of the United States.
     
  15. Fyrenza

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    Hmmm...

    Either you're making that up,

    or you associate with members of those far right groups enough to know who does Lecture Tours throughout their membership, AND how much those groups pay for such...
     
  16. maryjohn

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    You can't lose your citizenship for becoming the citizen of another country, and you certainly can't lose your citizenship because of another person's actions. Even your father.

    Let it go.
     
  17. Fyrenza

    Fyrenza Queen of the Ians

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    Believe it or not, in a lot of countries, including the US, children are IN FACT "owned" by their parents, and their parents wishes are what they live by.

    If a country that i want to move to does NOT allow dual-citizenship, i either have to move there on a VISA/GreenCard, or SURRENDER my other citizenship.

    It's no bad thing against his mother, nor his father, that they wanted him educated, but in order to do so, THEY SURRENDERED HIS CITIZENSHIP. Irrevocably.

    If you really believe that he, Mr. Lawyer Supremo, didn't know ALL ABOUT every one of these considerations, you definitely need to stay FAR AWAY from whatever it is you're smoking, pal...
     
  18. maryjohn

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    The US does not recognize the primacy of any other nation when it comes to its citizens. Foreign powers do not control the US. An American is American, no matter what the laws of any other country. It can not be won or lost by another person, no matter how closely related.
     
  19. depoisoned

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    The next four years are going to be so boring IMHO. Gone are the days when we had issues to argue about like, Should America fly prisoners of war off to secret CIA black sites and have their nuts hooked to car batteries?

    Did Obama's parents check no on box 7C on his birth certificate? Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn....
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    Keyes sues to obtain Obama citizenship proof


    November 14, 2008 - 11:23PM
    Presidential candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders sue in CA court to obtain Obama citizenship proof, stop Secretary of State from certifying Electors

    Presidential candidate Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a “natural born” citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

    In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama’s California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.

    In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, “I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation.”

    Former Reagan administration official Ambassador Alan Keyes and Wiley S. Drake were the 2008 presidential and vice-presidential nominees of the American Independent Party, which is the California affiliate of the new national America’s Independent Party.

    Mission Viejo, California attorney Dr. Orly Taitz and United Justice Foundation Executive Director Gary Kreep are representing the plaintiffs in this case.

    Copies of the court filing, along with further information concerning developments in this case, will be made available at http://www.AIPNEWS.com, or can be obtained by contacting AIP national chairman Tom Hoefling.
     

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