Surely all men can't be this fucking stupid

At last here is proof that some men have a clue

 

First of all, your response was not there when I started typing. Sorry I didn't respond in what you consider a "timely fashion".

I shouldn't have to give you my life story so not mentioning my father is my choice. If I had known you planned to analyze me and tell me what I needed in my life, I would have provided more information.

I didn't respond to your post because it was late as hell, when I woke up you were telling me off in another post.


As far as my anger, I was born angry. It's become part of who I am and I like it. It keeps me motivated. As for your "suggestion", I have no desire to let some therapist dig around in my head in an attempt to turn me into the pussy-whipped masses I see around me.

I was raised by my father for the better part of my life and that gave me a different view of the double standard. He taught me to be me...not what the world expects me to be.

If I hate men, its because I hate everybody. I feel like people need to be in therapy for their need to be percieved as "nice" and their need to have everyone like them. But hey, not my place to tell them how to deal with life.

Unless I know or respect you, I don't give a fuck about you. That's just me. For whatever reason. I don't care if you live or die, eat or shit, cry or laugh. That's your business

The way I feel, you people should feel lucky I'm not up in the roof picking off the sheep with a rifle.

But I love me too much to go to jail

 

No need to apologize, I just wanted you to undestand that I really did have a reason to believe that your post was directed at me. I don't want you to feel bad, just to understand.

Edit: Irrelevant to the thread. Sorry to have wasted the space.

 

i feel that the mother has a right to choose.. .but with that choice comes a shitload of responsible thinking about it.... i personally (others may disagree and i wouldnt say they are wrong just because i am mostly torn on this subject) think that abortion should be used as a last resort.accidents do happen and situations occur that are unfair.. but for the most part, people have at least some choice in their actions of whether or not a child will be conceived. im not talking about rape or the condom breaking or the 3percent chance that the pills dont work actually happening or people who are unable to use birth control for health reasons etc....and sex is such a strong force that anyone can have an accident.. still if you bring a child into existence i feel that a person needs a damn good reason to abort. still people can have damn good reasons. anyway as far as whether a guy has a right to tell a woman she cannot have an abortion... no.. but i think a little more thought needs to go on the guys perspective of this matter. ok obviously if the guy is an asshole who is gonna disappear from the childs life or is abusive or whatever that is a flashing red sign that he really has no place. but ... regardless of the fact that the child is in the mother's body and the mother has to carry it.... the woman would not have a baby if it werent for the guy... and fathers can and do (not all) love their children just as much as mothers. this child.. though not in their body is a part of them. if the father is a responsible guy who wants to be a part of the childs life.. regardless of whether or not the mother wants the baby... i think his feelings should at the very least be considered.. as long as it is not a situation where going through with the pregnancy is going to cause serious injury to the mother.. not that you can always know but still... i think in many cases the father's opinion should be considered. i think the woman has the last say but i dont think that the issue is 100% a womans choice of what she does with her own body. because of the fact that this is not just the womans body but the childs too... 2 bodies. ok the childs body is inside the mother and depends on the mother but the child is not 100% the mothers body.. it also consists of the father... and is amazingly enough an entirely new body. the ability to love and care for a child is just as important as carrying it through pregnancy to birth. if the father is willing to do that i think it would be a good idea to consider this option as opposed to abortion.. just because the mother doesnt want it doesnt mean that it cant have a good life full of love with someone else. ok there will be an emotional scar... of why mommy didnt want me... but all of us have sad parts of life. life is not just about the good times. i do not think that just because a child may not be born into perfect circumstances that it should not be born.... of course this is all relative to how bad the situation really is but in all cases where there is hope.... give the baby a chance... and just because its the womans body doesnt mean that a guy cant love the child too... if a woman says hey its my body you have no say in this to a guy who loves this unborn child and wants to love it and care for it.... and then aborts it ... this is very cruel to the man losing a son or a daughter. all situations are different so in some situations i would say the man has no right to say a thing about it... but in some situations the mans opinion should at the least be considered. in the end he cannot decide for her. its her choice i feel. she is the one who has to go through the pregnancy which does a damn lot to a womans body. but to exclude the man altogether in some situations i feel is immoral.

 

know1..... i feel you made some good points and i also see that you are not trying to upset, but rather get a point across in a way it can be understood which i respect you for. i also see some good points that missfontane has made.... but since it really doesnt have anything to do with the question at hand and because missfontane hasnt come to you asking for therapy... i think you have no place talking to her about the assumptions you have made about her harboring anger toward men. stick to the question.. dont play therapist im sure she really doesnt need that.. it distracts from the debate by upsetting her and by not helping to prove anything in the first place.

 

Thanks, malina. You are totaly right in your assessment here. I said what I had to say on the subject several posts back, and the rest is just getting in the way. I'll stop now.

 

I think I'm in love. No not really. But, RIGHT THE FUCK ON!!!!!


You deserve SUCH a BIG kiss on the cheek for that!



:smoooooooch:

 

I wondered how long it would take for young moms to spill over into other threads.

 

If a man has to pay support to raise the child then he should have rights at prebirth as well. It's his child equally as much as the woman's.

 

im just posting now to apologize for calling missfontella misfontane....i dont know how i got the wrong name stuck in my head. anyway, it was just a goof. sorry.

 

Quit littering this thread, God dammit!