survival gardening or guerrilla gardening

Do not spread Jerusalem artichokes. You can't get rid of them once they get established. If they are not native to your area you are playing with fire. I doubt you are willing to eat enough of them to control them. Give us some recipes for them to show you've actually ate them. They can take over. I know I planted a few thought they were pretty. I've fought their invasions for five years now.

 

When the shit hits the fan you won't know what to harvest. Thing is I am not too worried about you guys planting stuff, you seem to have little or no knowledge about their cultivation or requirements or climate and annual cycles are. I am just hoping you don't unleash numerous pests on our environment.

 

You are worried about global warming but you aren't worried about planting crap that can force native colonies out of existence?

 

The fact that some of you are promoting the planting of noxious plants is worrying. I don't think for a minute it's about wanting to provide food for the poor. Want to know where to plant your cannabis, study it's cultural requirements, and provide for them.

 

oh i see the senile old man is arguing with himself again..

thats good, my buddies said he didnt even notice them planting the kudzu,chokes and pot all around his property,he was to busy typing to himself about the delusions dancing around in his head..

 

Thing is I walk my property everyday. I know what's growing where.

 

hehehehehe,, of course you do. its ok they are just going to plant more when you find what they have planted so far,,of course thats while they are stealing all your veggies from your garden...

 

I like I said before, here you are getting all bunchy about the survival gardening of a handful of people and a few plants going wild and forcing out some native plants in the next 100 years or so but at the same time agribiz is planting millions of acres of genetically altered plants that have already started cross breeding with the same kind of non-genetically altered plants, even those grown organically, hence not forcing other plants out but genetically altering those plants so that the original unaltered plants may be soon lost forever and that’s happening as we speak.

So if you want a crusade, why not take that up and leave those who are just trying to survive till next year alone.

Honestly, I’m sorry that you’ve had trouble with the things that you’ve planted but don’t take that out on those who already know better and have not allowed it to happen to them.

 

I don't want any of you butts planting crap you don't know about on a whim. I think my pitbull will keep you off my property and here in northern California I think the Mexican gardeners will keep you off the rest of the land.

You're just a day late and a dollar short.

 

no it likes steak and is actually a big baby.. as far as the mexican gardeners, who do ya think i got to plant the kudzu and choke with the herb?? carlos and jose are cousins of dillis ex..


go ahead and laugh it off,just gives them chokes and kudzu time to start spreading.they help conceal the herb crop..

 

Mother Nature does that she genetically alters what she sees fit. I am not a crusader. I am a gardener. I understand how plants evolve.

 

You can plant what you want where you wish, but if they don't receive appropriate water or sun they won't grow.

 

The fact that some of you are promoting the planting of noxious plants is worrying? ......Noxious plants?

You make it sound like everybody on this thread wants to plant poison ivy.

One person mentioned Jerusalem artichokes and aside from it being prolific it can hardly be deemed noxious.

As for me I quoted a book that said that potatoes, green beans, carrots and zucchini might be good to grow in a survival situation. Please tell which of these you consider to be noxious and why?

I personally find them quite tasty and not noxious at all, in fact I eat them on a regular basis.



As for Pot or cannabis why do you keep bring this up? Seeing as you are the only one talking about it, what’s the point?

Personally I haven’t smoked it since 1978 and don’t intend to start again now. In fact to me growing it is just a big waste of time and money that could be spent better elsewhere.

So unless you can come up with some good reason to keep bringing it up, that subject is just a waste of time in this thread as well.

 

So all of you guerilla gardeners are just planting beans and potatos to survive. Well it should be easy for you to look up their cultivation requirements and do just that.

 

No you don't understand! You better look it up! Natural selection is what Mother Nature is doing. She’s not splicing animal DNA in to plants.

“Scientists…have learned how to insert genes from plants, animals, bacteria, and viruses into any other plant or animal. For instance, Monsanto has inserted foreign genes into soybeans, corn, and canola (rapeseed) that allows farmers to spray the crops with Monsanto’s toxic Roundup weed killer without killing the plant. They have inserted a gene from an insect-killing bacterium called BT into corn so that every cell of the plant has activated BT toxin in it.”


PS Also if you are not a crusader, please stop doing so in this thread!

 

Why don't they refer to canola oil by it's real name?

Inserting BT is very interesting and scary. I wonder what the consequences will be.

 

It’s plain to see you didn’t bother reading the OP, so here you are:

So Yes, all of us guerilla gardeners are just planting beans and potatoes to survive.

We also understand that “if they don't receive appropriate water or sun they won't grow”.

But we also know that if push comes to shove and the government decides that we are criminals and find us because of the oblivious conventional gardens we’re tending, in prison that garden is not going to do us much good, now is it?

So I guess my question still is; what is everyone planning to do about growing their own veggies without being caught?

 

im willing to bet i will have more variety in permaculture plantings than you have in your entire garden and thats if only half the seed we have planned to plant that way come up..

you sure talk a lotta shit for a old man,but its just that,,SHIT!!! and you have NOTHING to base your delusions on except for your own thoughts in your own brain.

do you have such a need to stroke your own ego that you have to make shit up and keep harping on them as fact simply to see yourself type??

 

Rapeseed oil is poisonous to living things and Canola is a hybrid of the rapeseed plant that is not poisonous thus Canola Oil.

There may not be any consequences at all but the big problem is that by time the consequences do show up, all the plants may have interbred to the point that there is no longer any natural plants to go back to.

 

as long as we are on our land we are going to begin the transformation into permaculture as i have seen enough to be convinced it is a great way to camouflage food.

if we ever were to have to bug out we have plans,i know the wilderness behind me well,i understand the climate,i understand how to hide plants from the air and i know how to garden in my area.(contrary to what the delusional self absorbed old man among us thinks ) so we will adjust accordingly if,heaven forbid,that time was to come..

as i said before in this thread,we have our ducks in a row like good little survivalists should but we also know loose lips sink ships so i am hesitant to go into much detail of that scenario.