Teacher allows students to dress up as Ku Klux Klan as they ask black classmate if th

My guess is that if that incident had gone any further the word ****** would have been used, (for the project or not) and then things really would have gotten worse.

 

I've heard you use that word about Obama. What was that about?

 

I'm not sure that I have used it about Obama. I don't normally talk about him, I couldn't care less about him. Also, if I did use the word, it wasn't in a derogatory sense. The only reason I used it here, or have used it in the past is because, like Shale so elegantly put it in one of his essays, we're all adults, and for me, or anyone to write, "the n-word" or "n*****" would just be an insult to everyone, including myself.

I once had to write an essay for english about the novel Huck Finn. I had to address the character Jim and the reason why, and the irony behind, he was called "****** Jim". The context in which that word is used in that novel is the way I've used it here.

 

What school was the religious dress/headscarf banned?
Was it this school we are talking about within this thread?
That's the only way there could be double standards...if you choose to see it as that.

I am reading what you are saying quite intently, and with a bit of a grin.
I can't believe you are being serious here.

They did not reenact any lynching.
You'll be saying next the teacher went to the caretaker and asked for some gasoline and a couple of bits of wood to make a cross.

Ok, I'm done to with this.
You are being stupid and i'm not indulging you any further, tbh.

 

much like religion, I fail to see where Obama comes into all of this? I thought he was the current president on the United States??

 

I think it was in the political forum and people were asking if he was acting like a socialist.
You said, no but he was acting like a .... well you get the idea.
If my memory (I might be wrong) serves you used to throw it around the word a lot last year (when you said it in that thread)...
I'm sure it was for shits and jollies.
I remember it being thrown around a lot last year.

 

Read lunarverse's last few posts.

 

They were going to, you wally

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...lows-students-dress-Ku-Klux-Klan-Georgia.html

asked the child if they could. They fuckin' well wanted to! That's not right. And from the top of my head I am thinking Oklahoma that banned some children of these items of clothing. So what it is not the same school, still a case that parts of America are just as bigoted as we felt they were some years ago.

Pedantic proposition is something of an expected occurrence on the internet.

My point with religion, is this. If they teach you, in the Quaran to do these things (by wearing whatever), and you cannot- then why are you allowed to be taught by some quack about the KKK by playing dress up.

I will shut up now, but just because I don't believe it should be alright and you do, does not make any one of us any more right- so you can wipe that grin of your face and accept other people do have opinions that will not always be similar to your own!

I think it was racist, even if it was just an idea, it was a racist one. They could have acted out anything- what the world has is a lot of history.

 

Perhaps it was this thread. You were quite active in it. I saw at least one person use the term. In post #2 I sarcastically called Obama stupid, but I'm sure I've never used that word in that context, with the exception of a few times where as you said I was using it jokingly. That's not like me.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=372981&highlight=obama

 

It's nice to see people can have their own opinions

 

Shit, never mind. You were right.

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=369217&highlight=obama&f=595

That was rather tasteless of me, though my intention wasn't to demean him. I was patronizing the thread.

 

You are clever.

 

Doing some reading, I found an article about 1 11 year old girl who wasn't allowed to wear a Hijab because no headwear was allowed at the school.
It wasn't bigotry just one policy for everybody.
If anything it was equality.

The outcome:

Editor’s note: The Muskogee School Board has approved a dress code change that will allow students to wear religious headgear. Starting in the fall of 2004, students will be able to wear head coverings for religious reasons if they apply and have their requests approved by the school board.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=13379

Mmm, don't I know it.

I don't think the Quaran asks women to wear certain clothing.
It's a cultural thing not a religious thing I believe.

I didn't think you were being serious. Forgive me if you were.

I understand it was in port taste what those kids may have said (turns out it is one kids word against another)...I'd not attempt to defend that.

 

That's a matter of opinion.

 

I don't know much about Islam, but I think it does mention something in the Quaran about not showing beauty etc. But, the way it is taken and put into practice does differ. Perhaps, it is cultural as to what extreme they take it.

 

I like this interpretation:

The clearest verse on the requirement of the hijab is surah 24:30-31, asking women to draw their khimar over their bosoms.

Which most women do, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab#Qur.27an

 

Is that the same interpretation that goes on to say that they 'should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons' and it goes on.

Covering bosoms - yes, I agree with. But it says bosoms and 'their beauty' - if the beauty part of that is referring to their bosoms, why on earth would they 'only' display it to all of those people!

Like I said, I don't know much about it, but it sounds to me like bosoms and beauty is being referred to as a separate thing, unless they can display them to fathers, sons and other men in the family

A friend of mine covered almost completely and she did so because she believed the Quran spoke about not letting others, except family, see her body.

But, that isn't what the focus of the thread is about.

 

Yes.

I think the more conservative the culture the more beauty is covered.
I would say near to the extreme interpretation is the Hijab.
But I have seen Muslim women wear a Hijab but also wear tight fitting jeans.
Go figure.

I'm confused too.

True. Not my fault.

 

I'm late to this one.

I don't have any problems with this necessarily. There is absolutely nothing wrong with dressing up as KKK for a history video project on racism in America. In fact, I think discussing historical racism in social contexts in class is much better than glossing over it.

A mock lynching in a student film shows the reality of the klan.

Going up to a student in the lunchroom dressed in klan garb asking if they can perform a mock lynching was obviously very stupid and insensitive, and I can understand why the student was scared and angry. He's owed an apology.

It doesn't give much context, but if the kids doing the video shoot were simply young and naive; they're in high school... and didn't mean anything hostile by it, than I think this is blown out of proportion.