Technically- virgin birth is possible

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It is the fanatics, however, that are the loudest. And in my opinion the most dangerous. It was fanatics that slaughtered millions during the crusades, fanatics that put on white robes and hoods and light up crosses in people's yards, fanatics that have killed their families to send them up to god, etc...

And it isn't just christians, look at the Muslim fanatics and the harm they have caused in the middle east.

Most these people are just not to right in their mind.

 

So if virgin births are possible, why the hell do all the Xtian fanatics keep pushing these "abstinence only" sex-education programs in schools? If abstinence isn't 100% effective at preventing pregnancy, then we shouldn't be cramming it down kid's throats either, no? After all, a less than 100% effectiveness is the rationale used for banning discussions of condoms, the pill, etc, right?

 

I believe Stalin was an atheist? he did some nasty stuff.

My only question re: your excellent post, Sera, is this:
I feel that the thing that is not right in these villainous folks is not in their minds, but their hearts.

Hitler had a very highly developed intellect, likely genius level, yet no sense of love, as I see it.
You? what do you think?

 

Hmm...you are correct in a sense, except what we interpet to be feelings of the heart are still in our minds (no brains, no feelings). But I know what you ment.

 

Well, that is a complex issue, but the part about the virgin births is easy. They are rare. really rare. Not worth worrying about.
abstinence as the message led to my brothers grad class having to open a daycare for the 23 babies born to his fellow grads.
i believe the reason for banning the pill etc. is the fear of sex, nudity, and pleasure that many Victorian-era influenced brains harbour.

 

Two Cardiac Surgeons have now published books that share numerous heart transplant recipients being changed in their tastes, ideas, etc. to what the donor had been.
There are some very cool stories in there.
The heart is far more than a pump, and it is no coincidence that we use 'heart' to describe someones will and caring, etc. It is an ancient and common idea.

 

Now that is amazing. I will have to look up information on that, it should be rather interesting reading.

 

ya gotta have heart

his heart wasn't in it
a heart to heart talk
it was straight from the heart
follow your heart
she has a good heart
the crime was a heartless act
with all your heart
from the bottom of your heart

I feel that there is a basis for these common phrases, a quality the heart has that is very profound and critical for our contentment.

 

Yeah I know, Those Christians are called fake Christians.... Jesus warned about them.... He said "many believe with their lips but their hearts are far from me." I guess you just met your first real Christian.

I'll be back later to defend my case for all that have ganged up on me in the Christian forum.

 

I support you, your beliefs are true, valid, real, and equal to my own. They are the right ones for you.
Just not me.

 

Oh Lawd, chile.

 

Well, given that the heart is so tied to our emotions, and changes it's beat with them; it's no wonder the ancients thought the heart was the CENTER of emotion, feeling, and intuition. We now know it's truely the brain that controls it; rather than heart, we should say "right-brain," though admittedly, it doesn't have the same ring to it.

And, by the way, lol at JDFU. Way to be a self-righteous fool. If you are a true Christian, you've just convinced me forever that I never want to join your club.

 

i am sorry, but I disagree, the heart is the source of some of it, in my view.
this is not just a guess, it is based on real case histories of transplant recipients stories.

 

the reason it's so important, to whomever asked, is that from what i've seen on these forums there's a lot of "WELL CHRISTIANS BELIEVE BLAH BLAH" and "BUT THOSE CHRISTIANS THINK BLAH BLAH" and they're very generalized phrases that often only encompass only those who have the strictest readings of the bible, strictest interpretation of the laws, etc etc etc.

however, not every christian denomination nor every christian person believes those things, and thus, it is important not to group them all together.

 

that was me, and the question was just curiosity, cuz I wondered what points were the ones you felt were important. There were so many that came to me, I wanted to know if the same ones were what you were thinking of.
and they pretty much are.

 

This is an excelent point, because according to the bible many people would claim to be Christian, but only a few making this claim will be Christian. The bible knew this condition would exist long ago. You are right, many claim to be Christian while no believeing the truth of the bible. The bible states it is the Holy Spirit that is our teacher, and it is only the Holy Spirit that gives the correct interpretation. When you only look to men for truth you will often fail to understand it. When God is your teacher, you are not lost in translations. They will worship me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. You have recognize the condition of today's church. The bible was correct again when it knew this condition through out the ages would exist in the Christian church.

 

There is a huge difference between, "fanatics", and false Christians. If one tries to justify ungodly acts by using the Bible, they DO NOT know Christ.

Maybe a modern mainstream, "Christian", who is only worried about themselves and their own salvation wouldn't.

 

here my question since yall know so much... why is it non of the prophecies are in agreement on a messiah returning to the earth? im native american and all of our fables are earthy in spirit, one cannot take the fables seriously of we would believe that animals ran the earth as humans try to, but one thibng im sure of is that had the native american tribes never been introduced to "christians" we would all be better off... see its the nature of stupid mother fuckers (most christians) to think that evryone should believe as they believe or something is wrong with the non believer...


and to you supernova who had the audacity to ask if i knew what i was talking about.. tell me when was the first translated publication of the compilations of bull shit now none as the bible? when was the birth of christianity? and when you find this out tell me how long after you christ died... then you will see the irony i speak of... its amazing to me how you can believe in something etheral, even look for omnipotent explanations, when the only source of information you have is in a book authored by man dissected by man and introduced to man by man!

and to think all of this started cuz someone was trying to explain or denounce immaculate conception! when not a christian in the world would belive it if it happened today!

 

Could you tell me which prophecies are not in agreement? I would be interested in seeing even one. The reason I look to the bible with confidence is because it is the only book I know that writes history before it happens. The coming of Christ was pridected hundreds of years before He came to earth. And there are at least 300+ predictions written before Christ first coming that can be found in the Old Testament. Further more, their are many more prophecies that predict His second coming. If you know these prophecies you will realize that the Jews are not back in Israel today by accident.

 

Sera your Christian bashing really gets old after a while. You must really hate Christians, you never miss a second to try and smear their name. When ever you talk about Christians you always speak of cross burnings, crusades, fanatics ect. Well there are many Christians in america and around the world who for hundreds of years have tried to help people all over this earth. Many Christians missionaries often died at the hands of the people they were trying to help. And after the slaughter new missionaries would continue their work even when it ment that their own lives would be again at risk. Yet not once have I ever heard you mention their sacrifice. Not once have you ever mentioned how Christians have aided in helping the under privileged. Those who killed people in the name of Christ were never Christian, because their works reveal what they were really about. Yet these are the only one's you ever mention. And then you end your statement stating these people are not right in the mind. It's obvious to me you are trying to promote the idea that if you are a vocal Christian, you are dangerous fanatic who is mentally off. Sera get real, and please try to be a little more objective.