Niranjan, did you even read the link you posted for the nation of Islam? " The original Nation of Islam was founded in the U.S. in 1930 by Wallace Fard Muhammad also known as Master W. D. Fard Muhammad (1877, 1891 or 1893–1934 or later), whom the Nation of Islam believes to be the long-awaited "Messiah" of the Jews and the Mahdi of the Shia Muslims. One of Fard's first disciples was Elijah Poole, whose name Fard later changed to Elijah Muhammad (1897-1975). Elijah Muhammad began preaching that W.F. Muhammad was literally God in person" Anyone who believes this is not a muslim. "The main belief of The Nation of Islam and its followers is that there is no God but Allah. However, they redefine "Allah" by saying "who came in the person of W. D. Fard." Fard was the Moorish Temple representative who founded the Nation of Islam that was then adopted by Elijah Muhammad." Their teachings are heretical by traditional Islamic standards which abhor the deification of any person" Boom. Not muslim.
Maybe so, but they claim themselves to be muslims, just like the ahmediyas,sufis and the shias too. Whos stopping them. They themselves go to haj, study the quran, and do islamic stuff. They are muslims in my book.
And how can you say that. You yourself is saying that my book is not crap, which means you accept its validity. I think you should be calling yourself a moron for calling me a moron for no reason at all.
niranjan, i think youre just argueing for the sake of argueing. If your just looking to cause trouble, this isnt the forum to do so. But if you have legitimate questions, i suggest you ask them. Im pretty sure being a wanker isnt praised in hinduism
So when I argued against Abu Talib for saying that the shias are not muslims , that becomes arguing for the sake of arguing. Great logic. Incidentally if that Talib dude said this in a shia country, I can very well imagine what would happen to him. Same with the shia dudes who go to sunni countries and say that sunnis are not muslims. I have criticized Hinduism as well for its flaws.
Oh Hinduism accepts all sorts of fools. Are they praised though? Well, if fools in Hinduism praise fools in hinduism then does that count as praise? fools praising fools? Anyway, those of us hindus who are somewhat mature tend to ignore them. The fools are like lice , the only cure is a the hairspray of detachment.
Especially fools like u. I am detached from u alright. :H And I guess since Vivekananda and Gandhi and Swami Dayananda Saraswati criticized Islamic terrorism , you consider them fools as well. Coming from a fool like u, that is not surprising. I have never even seen u criticizing the stupidity of Iskcons leaders as well and the flaws of hinduism. UR 2FOOLISH 2B 4GOTTEN
You guys are all getting caught up in personal attacks on one another. I could listen to more intelligent conversation in any redneck bar in Dead Possum, Arkansas. Try making a point without attacking the listener. I know, you'll all turn around and jump on me now, like a pack of junkyard dogs when someone rattles the front gate. Like White Scorpion was telling me in Writers Forum not so long ago: "Chill out."
Now Fatah is fighting Hamas, Lebanese are fighting Palestinian refugees, Iraq Shia are fighting Iraq Sunnis, Turks are fighting Kurds, and all believe God is on their side. And I don't like anybody very much. Maybe that makes me an honorary Israeli. Personally I think the wall they've built is a good thing, but if they keep all the Arabs out, who will take the bracero jobs (as in Mexicans working California plantations)?