Test for psychic people

penis----when are you gonna tell the word? and psycics astrael travelers--remote viewers telepathy and a host of other occult sciences do exisist---i feel sorry for you closed minded sheeple---electricity was magic until it properties became understood----im sure all my LSD Mescaline and shrooms definatly enhanced my psychic abilities---cant preach to the stupid so whatever

 

I want to understand, or I wouldn't be asking, MasterCylinder. You'll have to go deeper than just saying that they do exist. I am open to the fact that it might exits, but to this point, I have no reason to believe that it does.

 

I did read your second post, but I was referring to the dialogue you had with zengizmo, which exhibited more sweeping dismissal than it did curiousity or sincere interest.

Most of the general public is too threatened by the prospect of psychic abilities as a result of their fear-based societal conditioning (i.e. fear of having their mind invaded or controlled remotely, which is ironic considering that that is the state which characterizes their daily lives albeit for differing reasons) to want to believe or sincerely investigate.

In other words, many don't want to believe.

I'm glad you think so.

There was no personal judgment, just objective observation of your behavior. The only things I know about you so far is that you're relatively well-spoken, had an upbringing that revolved in part around belief in psychic abilities and are inclined towards one-sentence dismissal of opposing worldviews.

Well, yeah, if you make blatantly provocative and one-dimensional statements like "Psychic people don't exist" in a psychic forum, you're naturally not going to elicit alot of good will -- hence my suspicion of your true motivations for being here.

Alright, so gain them.

Travis

 

Trying to gain them (my whole life), but it is exceedingly difficult. No matter how gently I try to go about this subject, people just call you and idiot. Thought maybe a bold statement was worth a try.

And, in my opinion, the general public wants to believe in the supernatural. I would say about half of people believe in some sort of pseudoscience. My mum wouldn't be in business if a lot of people didn't. I usually ask people about their beliefs in these sorts of things, and a lot of them harbor a strong opinion for or against. It's a polarizing issue.

 

It is indeed.

 

The synchronous emergence of cause and effect can be observed everywhere you look. Whether or not miracles, siddhis, or psychic power exist is not nearly the meaningful question as what they could be for.

 

You're right, td, but I think it's safe to say that the mass consciousness will have to become established in the knowledge of the existence of metaphysical phenomena prior to developing the ability to determine the manner in which those phenomena can be practically applied.

But perhaps by "what they could be for", you mean why they exist in the first place, in which case I would say that they exist in order to redirect our awareness towards the source from which they, and consequently we, originated from, and in the process, enable us to begin to overcome the suffering inherent in an existence that is anything non-inclusive of that awareness.

 

My father once told me he was excited about the future and was anxiously awaiting critical mass. I told him it would arrive sooner if he didn't wait.

 

Wow radareyes, here I was all set to dissect YouFreeMe's motives online, and I come back to the forum to find you've done the job for me - and quite superbly, you analytical and perceptive wunderkind.

So YouFreeMe, at this point in the discussion I would merely point out that the subject doesn't NEED to be quite as polarizing as your approach made it in the present instance...but maybe your approach was meant in a more lighthearted vein than I gave you credit for.

And I agree with you that a major part of the population does believe in some form of pseudoscience. On the other hand, another major part of the population believes that if science has not yet discovered and verified certain things, they must not exist - and that belief constitutes a special form of pseudoscience. If you like we can get into the whole subject of the limits of the scientific method in studying phenomena that are mediated by conscious entities for specific purposes that don't necessarily include proving anything to skeptics...and also if you like I would be happy to share some of my personal experiences with psychic phenomena, which I think you would find quite worth your time to read about. But only if you can take a less confrontational approach than you've demonstrated up to now...

 

Well, neat to hear that I was on your mind in some way . Too bad no one has really pinned down my motives :-/. Oh, the internetz!
Of course science hasn't discovered everything! I do have trouble believing in things that have no backing, however.

If you want to tell me some of your experiances or anything like that, feel free to message me or something.

I haven't been particularly confrontational, and most of my meaning/what I am trying to say gets lost in translation via text, in my opinion.

 

Learning to say what we mean is a lifelong study, and learning to understand what is meant is also.

I've elaborated on my experiences lots of times on this forum, and I'll do so some more in this thread if you care to see it. But it will have to wait for another day, I need to catch a train...

 

Ha, that is fine, I have a whole lifetime to wait.
Or you could just post me a link from some other time you explained it.

 

bird

 

Yeh well I dunno, YFM, I seem to be having trouble getting in the mood - I mean, I barely know you...maybe we could have a little foreplay first. Howzabout you tell me one or two of the stories you've heard before about psychic claims that seemed bogus to you, hmmm?

 

Hey zengzimo, you seem like an experienced psychic. Have you read my posts? Do you think i'm on the right track?

 

Everybody is on the right track, FreshDacre, but we all have a different level of awareness of where the track is leading. If you want to increase that awareness, make a point of being merciless with anything you find in yourself that is false, anything that isn't really you, and anything that exists only to make you look good to yourself or somebody else. That's easier said than done, of course - and God knows I still have a long way to go myself - but essentially that's the recipe.

However you really don't need to focus on sticking to the recipe, unless you feel like it. Life will take you there, kicking and screaming, whether you want to go or not. In fact, even if you think you want to go where life is taking you, you'll still end up kicking and screaming, cuz otherwise you wouldn't learn what you need to.

 

Ok thank you zengzimo. Very wise made me think in a way i never had before. It seems almost like something from a buddhist.
I will indeed work on my inner self and filter out everything that is not who I am, just need to have thinking time. It does not seem easy, I have never asked myself something like this lol its fun
Its simple the more time you spend not being yourself, the more you are cheating yourself in life.

 

Not only that, FreshDacre, but the moment you start trying to be more yourself, the moment the universe starts sending you shit that makes it ten times as hard to be yourself, cuz it can get very scary, and you'll probably find you're not strong enough. That's okay - the humbling will help wear away at your ego, and that's part of the process.

 

What do you define as psychic experiences?
Knowing who is calling before you pick up the phone?
Communication with/Witnessing the dead?
Or just being super in-tune with your environment?

 

Any of those things COULD be psychic experience, but they're not the sort of thing I would bet the mortgage on, would you?