The 1st law

Non-sequiter.

Your words say nothing.

Does ANYBODY have a Science based argument/observation?

I warn you, i came to the SCIENCE forum becuase the Phliosphy forum was pretty fuckin' ignorant.

Can ONE person give an example of INFINITY that MUST exist?

If not-- my point stands TENTATIVELY accepted.

Time is a subset of the Universe, and not the other way around.

Next thread!

 

I am not saying the universe is of 'time'.

Nor was anything I wrote a non-sequitur.

My argument for infinity is logic based.

Motion precludes a closed system.

 

You deny the Big Bang?
you deny a begining and and end to the Universe?
You deny thermodynamics?

State your case IN SCIENTIFIC TERMS. Not in BS.

Your argument is asinines-- Motion cannot exist without Space/Time. THAT is so obvious...
Please reread the thread-- i'll not repeat myself ad naseum to someone incapable of understanding.

Anyone else willing to agree that Motion existed before Space/time?

 

Logic says you can't cross a room.

Relativity is Superseded by Quantum therory.

Logic is not always Reasonable.

I could destroy you at Chess.

 

Exactly what is nonsense. Your more-or- less accurate application of Theoretical Physics, (note capitalized), is a word description. Your insistence that your word description, admittedly more or less accurate, (which is not at all, accurate), represents a superior position, is simply a faith in your own virtue and does not represent a well considered situational awareness.

 

No

Yes

Why would I?

I did. A=A. Law of identity.

No-one said that it could, what we are discussing the existence of however is infinity.

I've read it. What I understand is that you are pretending that you can provide (even the most tentative) scientific proof that the universe is closed.

Anyone else? Motion exists as space! I am ahead of you 'scientifically' lol At least I'm willing to share!

No, it only says I must be able to. Logic is pure potentiality.

Relatively speaking, yes You think motion hinges on the dual. That's just personal prejudice most probably rooted in your being finite. lol

Finally, you find a straw to clutch to! And you clutch pretty well! In the deluge of this deep old game, quite possibly you could out my patience. I've been beaten by both friends and relatives in the past

Actually, that's all it is.

Anyone care to harp on (just a little more even) about how THIS IS A SCIENCE THRED???!!!

 

I remember a poster called jumbulisomething that attempted to dictate what evidence was admissible while using a sliding criteria. Define scientific terms.
If you want to use the language of physics, start presenting your mathematical formula.

Talk about bs. what did the big bang theoretically emerge from? The Big Bang theory cannot and does not provide any explanation for such an initial condition.

Yes.

 

How would you know? Are you 'right'.??
If you are you are the smartest human in history. The one who understands core processes in unified field theory. He who understands why time is a variable.
I beg to differ that you are not such.
[tho i could be wrong ]

Maybe GOD drives motion.. Who knows?
All i know is I exist. All else is Supposition unless it can be repeatedly shown to be, every time.

Occam

 

Not an open & shut case then after all? lol

It's open. How else do you think you could even question my immortal statement that motion precludes a closed system? Even Geck may grant that science falls to logic in order to advance.

The luckiest perhaps? - Nothing short of a conduit! A central node? -Try unwitting agent on whom wits spin is wasted while we pass time en masse endowing infinity with the most singular dimensions imaginable. lol

With self as the basis of our knowledge, may we not decide to know? How can our fabrication fail us when it appears to our content in whole?

(Dejavu, why are you such an impossible bastard?)

 

Surely, as well time has a beginning and end, universe does not.

 

Aw, but it is a word description that is a poor substitute for a written language that is much more esoterically descriptive--
MATH!!!!
And my faith in that is GREAT-- but not boundless.

I can follow it somewhat passed the begining of "0"....

But this is a forum for words. And my word description is the least wrong of those--proposed-- here.

Is it not?
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Infinity awaits.

 

I'm not going to waste my time on a Science Forum to address this unless someone else wants me too.

Every point has already been disposed of--

Yet you fear to address a single one of those answers...

You, sir, are a poser. Fourtunetly, 2nd Law (of which you clearly know nothing) has insured the demise of ignorance, as well as everything else!

Start a thread, and I will gladly expose your ignorance for the world.

But here, I will stay on topic, thank you.
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Infinity awaits!

 

"Sir?" lol

"Infinity awaits"? (Please)

You know what to do with your 'closed' universe, don't you?!

 

This is self-contadictory.

"Begining" and "ending" are descriptions of a particular cross section of Time.

"Before Time" and "After Time" are non-sequiter.
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MATH:

0=1+1

Deal with it.

ANYTHING CAN COME FROM NOTHING AS LONG AS IT IS BALANCED BY IT'S OPPOSITE
within the descrepancy dictated by Uncertainty.

TIME is a product of Existence-- not the other way around.

No time= No Existence.

 

That's fake maths, poser.

Where's the maths?

More specifically, a product of consciousness.

Where's the maths?



If the universe were to begin or end it would have to have something outside itself in which to do so.

 

OOPS!

I meant: 0=(-1)+1

Sorry-- it take at least a dozen beers for me to dumb it down....

Other than that, see post on Solipism, and head to the Philosophy forum.

You stand dissmised-- by all present, apparently.

 

Time is eventful, a mental construct. Time and universe are not synonymous statements.

This is not correct.

There is no opposing force.

If no time=no existence, then no existence=no time, doesn't matter the order.

 

Geck, I did know you meant -1, but I couldn't resist .

I haven't dismissed myself.

Maths is missing for anything coming from 0. Your equation doesn't show this.

Nothing will ever show THAT lol

 

What is your major malfunction. Go to the masturbation forum and clean out that head of yours.

 

Effort to be a bright old man (like your grand children) successful in spite of and regretting having studied Philosophy in those. The 'ROLE' thing.